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Re: Tilapia
[Re: TheGizzard]
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02/10/16 03:22 PM
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I would be be carefull of tilapia in a polluted water.I would not eat their flesh. Ever eat fish in restaurant? Most likely either tilapia or basa ( Pangassius sp.) likely raised in a sewage lagoon or in ponds with water taken from extremely polluted sources. Pretty much any tilapia taken from almost any waters in Texas will be a lot cleaner than one you get eating out or at the grocery. Now I'd draw the line at fish close to sewage outfalls or other likely polluted sources, but you do not see tilapia listed as a species to avoid even in areas with fish consumption advisories. While fishing, common sense rules, but when eating out or buying fish at the grocer the best thing is to look for and find the "COOL" (Country Of Origin Label) which will be tiny on the box or bag, but there all the same. Basically if it came from the EU, the US, or Chile, its got consumer protection, if from China, SE Asia, India, Philippines, and most other Asian and/or Third World sources, it does not. In the US there IS NO consumer protection associated with imported fishery products. Well, excepting the state of Arkansas which inspects 100% of imports. Rejected fish are sold in Texas. Use your noggin, do not assume that fish in an eatery or grocery are fully inspected and certified as truly safe to eat.
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Re: Tilapia
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02/11/16 12:49 AM
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If you have eaten frozen or store brought tilapia then they will taste like dirt or have a bland flavor. Personally I would never eat tilapia that was farm raised, I have seen some of the farms, Looks more like a septic tank. They had a Dirty Jobs show where Mike Rowe was cleaning tilapia "ponds". Looked like he was working at a waste treatment center.
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Re: Tilapia
[Re: paul_376]
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02/11/16 01:19 AM
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I used to catch an awful lot of nice ones in Landa Park (New Braunfels) when I was a kid in the '50s. They were suckers for a a black gnat or wooly worm trolled behind my 10' steel rowboat. Often caught 100 a day, up to about a pound. To me and my family, they tasted kind of muddy. I won't eat store-bought tilapia, since I know full well what those farm-raised fish are fed. Just my 2 cent worth.
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Re: Tilapia
[Re: paul_376]
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02/11/16 01:30 AM
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I used to get plenty of the 2 to 3 pounders by sticking them with an arrow.
Great fun and kept me shooting when deer season wasn't open.
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Re: Tilapia
[Re: paul_376]
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02/11/16 01:27 PM
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Re: Tilapia
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02/13/16 06:47 PM
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PB - 35# Blue Catfish Alexx PB - 7 lbs. Blue Catfish As far as Paul is concerned, he is my Bro. Lay off him. All is good. I might be in, just to hang with Paul. Sounds like a party.
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Re: Tilapia
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02/13/16 08:13 PM
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If you have eaten frozen or store brought tilapia then they will taste like dirt or have a bland flavor. Personally I would never eat tilapia that was farm raised, I have seen some of the farms, Looks more like a septic tank. They had a Dirty Jobs show where Mike Rowe was cleaning tilapia "ponds". Looked like he was working at a waste treatment center. I saw that episode. They actually had a striper/tilapia farm. The fish hatchery had the striped bass at the front where the water flowed in. They fed these stripers high protein fish pellets. The tilapia were in separate tanks DOWNSTREAM from the stripers. The tilapia were fed NOTHING. Figure it out! The tilapia were fed the same thing as the stripers but AFTER the stripers ate it. The tilapia were fed 100% waste that flowed downstream from the striper tanks. I can't speak for all commercially grown tilapia but I know what I saw. I would only eat those I caught from area lakes. I would not hesitate to eat those.
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Re: Tilapia
[Re: 361V]
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02/14/16 02:29 AM
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I saw that episode. They actually had a striper/tilapia farm. The fish hatchery had the striped bass at the front where the water flowed in. They fed these stripers high protein fish pellets. The tilapia were in separate tanks DOWNSTREAM from the stripers. The tilapia were fed NOTHING. Figure it out! The tilapia were fed the same thing as the stripers but AFTER the stripers ate it. The tilapia were fed 100% waste that flowed downstream from the striper tanks. I can't speak for all commercially grown tilapia but I know what I saw. I would only eat those I caught from area lakes. I would not hesitate to eat those. WTH?
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Re: Tilapia
[Re: have_rod_reel_travel]
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02/14/16 05:03 AM
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I saw that episode. They actually had a striper/tilapia farm. The fish hatchery had the striped bass at the front where the water flowed in. They fed these stripers high protein fish pellets. The tilapia were in separate tanks DOWNSTREAM from the stripers. The tilapia were fed NOTHING. Figure it out! The tilapia were fed the same thing as the stripers but AFTER the stripers ate it. The tilapia were fed 100% waste that flowed downstream from the striper tanks. I can't speak for all commercially grown tilapia but I know what I saw. I would only eat those I caught from area lakes. I would not hesitate to eat those. WTH? Absolutely true. I saw that episode. I'll never eat store bought fish/tilapia. It was not healthy eating I'm sure.
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Re: Tilapia
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02/14/16 02:32 PM
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I saw that episode. They actually had a striper/tilapia farm. The fish hatchery had the striped bass at the front where the water flowed in. They fed these stripers high protein fish pellets. The tilapia were in separate tanks DOWNSTREAM from the stripers. The tilapia were fed NOTHING. Figure it out! The tilapia were fed the same thing as the stripers but AFTER the stripers ate it. The tilapia were fed 100% waste that flowed downstream from the striper tanks. I can't speak for all commercially grown tilapia but I know what I saw. I would only eat those I caught from area lakes. I would not hesitate to eat those. WTH? Absolutely true. I saw that episode. I'll never eat store bought fish/tilapia. It was not healthy eating I'm sure. If this was a farm in the US, I assure you anything coming off it for sale to American consumers was inspected and certified as both healthy and nutritious...culture methodologies notwithstanding. In reality, this production scenario is actually efficient and not only produces a a good product, it helps to make the water either recyclable to the system or cleaner for treatment prior to discharge. It also saves on feed. However, in most of these systems the tilapia are not feeding directly upon the wastes of the other species, they are feeding on microbes and phytoplankton that grow as a result of the fertile water in the system. Most area lakes with tilapia are powerplant cooling reservoirs, which by definition are somewhat contaminated with heavy metals and other things, so perhaps not quite as clean as aforementioned tilapia in the striped bass system.....but likely perfectly safe to eat. Even in areas with fish consumption advisories, they usually do not include tilapia as they tend to feed low on the food web and do not bio-accumulate toxins like predatory fishes tend to do.
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Re: Tilapia
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02/14/16 03:43 PM
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I saw that episode. They actually had a striper/tilapia farm. The fish hatchery had the striped bass at the front where the water flowed in. They fed these stripers high protein fish pellets. The tilapia were in separate tanks DOWNSTREAM from the stripers. The tilapia were fed NOTHING. Figure it out! The tilapia were fed the same thing as the stripers but AFTER the stripers ate it. The tilapia were fed 100% waste that flowed downstream from the striper tanks. I can't speak for all commercially grown tilapia but I know what I saw. I would only eat those I caught from area lakes. I would not hesitate to eat those. WTH? Absolutely true. I saw that episode. I'll never eat store bought fish/tilapia. It was not healthy eating I'm sure. If this was a farm in the US, I assure you anything coming off it for sale to American consumers was inspected and certified as both healthy and nutritious...culture methodologies notwithstanding. In reality, this production scenario is actually efficient and not only produces a a good product, it helps to make the water either recyclable to the system or cleaner for treatment prior to discharge. It also saves on feed. Not arguing your points in the least. Just "saw what I saw"" and reporting. Agreed that this is simply efficient farming. Years ago I saw a study @ Texas A&M where they fed pigs waste from other pigs to determine how many times the waste could be processed(fed) through other pigs before it had no nutritional value. Personally, i would rather eat bacon from the first level of the process. The pigs that ate the commercial pig feed. (And yes, I have seen the Dirty Jobs episode where they hauled the dumpsters of waste food from the Las Vegas casinos to pig feed lots.) Not implying that this practice is wrong in Tilapia farming...just reporting. You dig in! :-) Disclaimer: although it appears this way from this post, I do not learn everything I know from Dirty Jobs! :-)))
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Re: Tilapia
[Re: paul_376]
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02/14/16 04:16 PM
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Used to cast net for 'em at the warm water discharge at Fairfield. Would get at least 2 or 3 with every cast. Last time I went was in 2009 so I don't know what the status is now. Love to eat 'em.
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Re: Tilapia
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02/15/16 12:19 AM
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I have read somewhere over 70% of the Tilapia here comes from China. I stopped buying it the market or eating it at restaurants since. One of my favorite fish, maybe I can make it to Squaw Creek one of these days.
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Re: Tilapia
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02/15/16 01:59 AM
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For your consideration: Myth: Tilapia eat poop. Fact: Tilapia are plant eaters; they do not eat poop, unless they are being starved. Truth: The rumor that tilapia prefer poop comes from an episode of Dirty Jobs on the Discovery Channel in which the host, Mike Rowe, visited a fish farm that raised hybrid striped bass. Mike unknowingly exposed the cruelty of the farmers, as they starved their tilapia into eating the wastes of the more valuable bass. Some time later, after a public outcry, the farm reported that the tilapia were only being used as "cleaners" and were never intended for human consumption. Still not nice, but whatever. Other investigations into the tilapia farming practices in Indonesia and China, have reported that it is not uncommon for fish farmers to starve tilapia into eating hog manure. Surprisingly, this practice does not have to be disclosed when the tilapia filets are imported for sale in US grocery stores. This is true of all imported fish. To be safe, you should only eat fish raised in the United States. By the way, we use the word "starve" loosely to mean "not supplying any legitimate aquatic species food source". Tilapia have very strong strike and graze instincts, and will "nibble" on just about anything that enters their water, including fingers and toes. Entire article: https://lakewaytilapia.com/Tilapia_Myths.php
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Re: Tilapia
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02/15/16 03:45 AM
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For your consideration: Myth: Tilapia eat poop. Fact: Tilapia are plant eaters; they do not eat poop, unless they are being starved. Truth: The rumor that tilapia prefer poop comes from an episode of Dirty Jobs on the Discovery Channel in which the host, Mike Rowe, visited a fish farm that raised hybrid striped bass. Mike unknowingly exposed the cruelty of the farmers, as they starved their tilapia into eating the wastes of the more valuable bass. Some time later, after a public outcry, the farm reported that the tilapia were only being used as "cleaners" and were never intended for human consumption. Still not nice, but whatever. Other investigations into the tilapia farming practices in Indonesia and China, have reported that it is not uncommon for fish farmers to starve tilapia into eating hog manure. Surprisingly, this practice does not have to be disclosed when the tilapia filets are imported for sale in US grocery stores. This is true of all imported fish. To be safe, you should only eat fish raised in the United States. By the way, we use the word "starve" loosely to mean "not supplying any legitimate aquatic species food source". Tilapia have very strong strike and graze instincts, and will "nibble" on just about anything that enters their water, including fingers and toes. Entire article: https://lakewaytilapia.com/Tilapia_Myths.php Well they don't eat poop in Squaw Creek anyway which is where I would eat them from. They eat earthworms on a dropshot rig here:-). No size or number limit. Kill all you want!
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