IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.

I have been backing my reels with braid for a few years and never had this happen.

I spool on the backing then stretch my backing out while attached to a fixed object, then reel the backing in very tightly, then add my main line. I've never had an issue.

Sounds like a lot of extra work to simply overcome a bad decision to use braid as a backing. Haha. Just use cheap mono....or better yet, just spool the reel with a full 100 yards of something good.

I have been backing my reels with braid for a few years and never had this happen.

I spool on the backing then stretch my backing out while attached to a fixed object, then reel the backing in very tightly, then add my main line. I've never had an issue.

Call me old fashioned, or wasteful, whatever. I still spool whatever line I'm using straight to the reel. All knots are weak points where something can and inevitably will go wrong. Fewer knots makes me feel better. And none of the line I use is very expensive, P Line CXX, Power Pro slick braid, and occasionally Big Game. . .I don't mind junking a little of it. Small price to pay for peace of mind.

Go on YouTube and search for "Aaron Martins braid backing" he explains why u need to use braid and why backing is smart to use. It's stupid to put on 100yds of line when ur only gonna use half of it before ur spool get low. Once you spoil gets half full your casting distance decreases and your gear ratio slows down. Most my reels except for deep cranking and deep water tecnique reels I used half backing half mainline which is usually floro

Call me old fashioned, or wasteful, whatever. I still spool whatever line I'm using straight to the reel. All knots are weak points where something can and inevitably will go wrong. Fewer knots makes me feel better. And none of the line I use is very expensive, P Line CXX, Power Pro slick braid, and occasionally Big Game. . .I don't mind junking a little of it. Small price to pay for peace of mind.

Steez, my brother, you are a hard head and set in your ways! But you alright

IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.

Then there are those (me) that say using a spool that is heavy and has too much line capacity is stupid. So I use 50 sized spools that are aftermarket and hold less line and cast much better. Greatly increased distance and more accurate. Only downfall is my reels only hold 150' of line. Oh well. I guess I will never know the advantages of adding excess line to a heavy, slow spinning spool, only to crutch it with adding additional knots and line types. And tape... And backlashes. I'd rather spend an extra $100 on a better, much lighter, faster spool and a couple ceramic bearings. A few 1000 yard spools of InvisX will last me about 6 months of hard fishing. Using 18 combos.

Hey now steez is a 40 year old future bass master AOY he has way more experience than your physics!! Hahaha some of yall over think stuff. Only reason I back spools is to save money all this tiny details about spool weight, bearings, etc are overkill for us weekend anglers.

Hmm? No, a smaller spool shouldn't add distance. Think of a reel spool as a simple lever, that is to say, the radius length created from the top edge of the line spooled up on it . . . down to its rotating center point, is nothing more than the equivalent of a rotating wrench. You have more power with a longer wrench handle than a shorter one. As one pulls off (casts off) line against spool resistance and the spool's diameter (radius)decreases, it creates more relative resistance, not less, on the puller and/or the lure flung as the line plays out. A larger spool is analogous to a longer wrench handle.

Brad

I didn't say a "smaller" spool. I said a lighter shallower spool. Same overall diameter. Just lighter. Faster. Easier to control. And yes, I do get more distance. And almost never a over run spool. Occasionally it happens when I sling a tore up Senko and the line suddenly is moving way too slow for the speed of the spool.

Also, the only reason I brought up the spool mods I have is some kid said the word stupid. It kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Haha.

"President of a school bass club"

Can't say we had them back then. I had to complete against guys with way more experience. As for he AOY smart [censored] comments. I know I have won enough to buy me a boat this year. And I missed winning one outright by an unfortunate cull clip breaking at weigh in.

And.....umm.... I've been in the money 7 out of 9 tourneys this year. I have 7 top 20's. 6 top 5's and 5 wins.

I think I'm doing ok for not taking bass fishing class at Baylor.

Okie....

I don't need a medal. Haha. I am accepting cash donations though. Either via PayPal. Or for you, you can just enter a tourney I'm fishing in. I'm sure your money will end up in the right hands. Haha. <<<< that's just a joke. Don't start getting fired up.

Let's go to Lewisville and see how good you are. Me against you in the high water. $500 for the biggest 5 fish bag. Don't worry about me....I don't get fired up. I just get crankin!

No worrys.

As for claiming to be AOY. Not a claim. A goal. I have a saying I use for myself. And it is very true.

If you think you can....you might. If you think you can't...you never will.

I am not claiming I am better than the elite guys. I can say, for a fact, that I have fished side by side with 5 of them this year. And I caught more weight than four of them. From the back of their boats. Fishing where they wanted to go. Am I better? Probably not. But I do take advantage of every single cast, every time during a tournament. I fished as a co angler this year... Why? Because I didn't own a boat. I figured it wasn't me against other guys, or gals. It was me against the lake and the fish. I figured I'd win a boat(again....confident) It was first place at each of the three tourneys. Bold dream? No. High goal? Yes. Did I do it? Well, not exactly. As stated above, a mechanical failure cost me a boat. In my third, ever, Bassmaster tourney. But...my winnings did allow me to pay cash for a boat from a fellow TFFer. And subsequent winnings allowed me to upgrade the boat substatially. So, for my first 9 tourneys and the accomplishments (goals set high, and achieved...sort of) I have made, I'm happy.

I'm not arrogant as most people on this forum perceive me to be. I am confident. Highly confident. In my abilities to catch bass. In any lake, any weather, and any water condition. I study this hobby and practice every day. And I challenge myself to catch a limit every day. Regardless of the situation. It is why I am able to do what I have done. Next year, in my [censored] little Nitro, I have been asked to fish as a "boater" against sponsored pros. I am gonna do it. Next year will be a good barometer for me. It will let me see if my abilities to read a lake, my graphs, and make intelligent decisions to find quality fish are getting better. If I can win, I'll have a better boat and a trip to the Classic for 2017. If I don't, I will not quit. I won't invent excuses. I'll practice more and enter as many tournaments as possible to stay in the moment.

Again. I'm not a dick. I not an [censored]. I am just a guy that REALLY loves to fish, compete, and set and attain very high goals. As for my screen name? Yes, I do own a lot of some of the best gear. I'm not rich, I build custom cars for a living. I sacrifice a lot of other fun things folks have in order to have the very best fishing gear I can possibly have. Simple. And the gear I have I have modified myself to make it even better, and more personalized for my style of fishing. It isn't cheap. Again. I go without a lot. I wear freaking clothes from Walmart. I don't eat out. I put back about $200 a week to spend towards my gear. A lot to some. Minimal for the level I want to fish at.

And I'm not 40. I'm 47

I have to work. It's guaranteed money(work). I have weekends off.

Honestly. I'm in. Which ramp?

Meet you out front of Tower Bay at 8am On Saturday. We'll check each other's livewells and go fish. Meet back at tower Bay no later than 2:30 to weigh fish. I've got a cheap pair of digitals if that'll work for ya.

It's on. The rubber is going to meet the road. Correction. The rudder is going to meet the water this weekend. Wear eye protection this may get ugly and a cup. These are real men. I hope their backing works out.

I have a scale. We can weigh both on each other's scales. And average. Whatever. It will be obvious when I get them from the livewell and my boat raises an inch. Lol.

As for the offer to go to Grapevine to party. No thanks. I don't live close, and driving to your lake is gonna take me a little while. I grew up there. Went to Marcus my freshman year and graduated from LHS. So I know enough about the general area. I also know that I don't want to go that far out of my way to smack talk when we can just hijack a dudes thread on here.

My money is on Okie.

I was gonna take off of work. Taking you to Lew is guaranteed money for me. Maybe we can get it in on Saturday.

I think that was the best TFF diss besides "don't talk to the pond king that way"

Yes. He got me pretty good on that one. If I made less money, we'd be fishing on wed. But, as it stands, we are fishing Saturday. We are meeting at 9am. Wish him luck. I'd ask for the same, but I already know that wouldn't happen from your guys. Haha.

Hey! Anyone got any tips for Lewisville? Haha. Thought I'd ask.

Hey guys it's alright for the hijack, its pretty entertaining to read this honestly!! And thanks for all the advice on the reel backing it was very helpful.

Lol. Doesn't know where Tower Bay is - believes he will beat a local stick - thinks he's going to be AOY. Nah, not delusional at all. Ambition is one thing, but don't be ridiculous, at least not in front of everyone.

Better bring your "A" game, stud........

So you're gonna use someone else's waypoints to try to win a heads up fight huh. Lol. I dunno, I guess I had better just not comment on that one. I can feel the WOS calling my name.

I want whatever job Steez claims to have!! He don't mind throwing money away lol

Man I didn't even read this thread until now .

So you guys say he shouldn't ask for areas? All the big name pros get help but a tff guy cant? Ok

I have seen okie truck parked at tower bay ramp for two weeks straight everyday . He sent me a few pics two days ago of some biggins

They want me to fail. I probably am biting off a good chunk. But, if I thought I couldn't, I never would try. So, as my mentality has been for many years, I think I can ......so I just might. Might not. Nothing keeps a person focused as well as accepting challenges and commiting to them. I have never been and never will be a quitter. I have never backed down from a challenge. This is not a dare! It's a challenge. And Saturday, I will have a new respect for Okie, and I am positive he will respect me. We have set times and agreements to this via PM. He understands what kind of person I am, as I do him. We will take pictures. If I lose, I will be the first to admit it here. If I win, he will admit it. Either way, we both feel that this is something we both have to do now. He and I have a lot of the same feelings about challenges and we both repsct each other. Maybe more after this weekend. But for now, we have agreed to the terms. While the rest of you just get to smile, and read, and wonder what fulfillment YOU will get out of your fishing this weekend. He and I will have a lot to talk about and remember. Even if one of us comes up short on weight. It really doesn't matter. We will know that instead of just talking the talk. We walked it.

They want me to fail. I probably am biting off a good chunk. But, if I thought I couldn't, I never would try. So, as my mentality has been for many years, I think I can ......so I just might. Might not. Nothing keeps a person focused as well as accepting challenges and commiting to them. I have never been and never will be a quitter. I have never backed down from a challenge. This is not a dare! It's a challenge. And Saturday, I will have a new respect for Okie, and I am positive he will respect me. We have set times and agreements to this via PM. He understands what kind of person I am, as I do him. We will take pictures. If I lose, I will be the first to admit it here. If I win, he will admit it. Either way, we both feel that this is something we both have to do now. He and I have a lot of the same feelings about challenges and we both repsct each other. Maybe more after this weekend. But for now, we have agreed to the terms. While the rest of you just get to smile, and read, and wonder what fulfillment YOU will get out of your fishing this weekend. He and I will have a lot to talk about and remember. Even if one of us comes up short on weight. It really doesn't matter. We will know that instead of just talking the talk. We walked it.

Y'all ought to donate that grand to a poor district high school fishing team......

That's an interesting outcome to a thread about backing on a reel. I forgot what the pre-hijack subject matter was for a minute.

I like Steez. I too have made it a point to be confident, effective, and successful while also taking pains to be reasonable, dignified, and polite. No matter how polite one is, though, many people get their knickers in a knot and blow their tops when anyone presents himself as anything above a lowly wretch.

It's funny how threatened people become over nothing, allowing their insecurities to conspicuously intrude on an affair like a pot boiling over as they pepper the internet with ill-composed attempts to call out what they perceive to be intolerable arrogance. The world is becoming nuttier than a two ton pallet of Whitman's Samplers.

Good luck, Steez.

No way points will be used by either?

Okie better nor bring his graph then . Yall should rent two John boats with 5 h.p. motors and troll

No way points will be used by either?

Okie better nor bring his graph then . Yall should rent two John boats with 5 h.p. motors and troll

That's an interesting outcome to a thread about backing on a reel. I forgot what the pre-hijack subject matter was for a minute.

I like Steez. I too have made it a point to be confident, effective, and successful while also taking pains to be reasonable, dignified, and polite. No matter how polite one is, though, many people get their knickers in a knot and blow their tops when anyone presents himself as anything above a lowly wretch.

It's funny how threatened people become over nothing, allowing their insecurities to conspicuously intrude on an affair like a pot boiling over as they pepper the internet with ill-composed attempts to call out what they perceive to be intolerable arrogance. The world is becoming nuttier than a two ton pallet of Whitman's Samplers.

Good luck, Steez.

That's an interesting outcome to a thread about backing on a reel. I forgot what the pre-hijack subject matter was for a minute.

I like Steez. I too have made it a point to be confident, effective, and successful while also taking pains to be reasonable, dignified, and polite. No matter how polite one is, though, many people get their knickers in a knot and blow their tops when anyone presents himself as anything above a lowly wretch.

It's funny how threatened people become over nothing, allowing their insecurities to conspicuously intrude on an affair like a pot boiling over as they pepper the internet with ill-composed attempts to call out what they perceive to be intolerable arrogance. The world is becoming nuttier than a two ton pallet of Whitman's Samplers.

Good luck, Steez.

That's an interesting outcome to a thread about backing on a reel. I forgot what the pre-hijack subject matter was for a minute.

I like Steez. I too have made it a point to be confident, effective, and successful while also taking pains to be reasonable, dignified, and polite. No matter how polite one is, though, many people get their knickers in a knot and blow their tops when anyone presents himself as anything above a lowly wretch.

It's funny how threatened people become over nothing, allowing their insecurities to conspicuously intrude on an affair like a pot boiling over as they pepper the internet with ill-composed attempts to call out what they perceive to be intolerable arrogance. The world is becoming nuttier than a two ton pallet of Whitman's Samplers.

Good luck, Steez.

They want me to fail. I probably am biting off a good chunk. But, if I thought I couldn't, I never would try. So, as my mentality has been for many years, I think I can ......so I just might. Might not. Nothing keeps a person focused as well as accepting challenges and commiting to them. I have never been and never will be a quitter. I have never backed down from a challenge. This is not a dare! It's a challenge. And Saturday, I will have a new respect for Okie, and I am positive he will respect me. We have set times and agreements to this via PM. He understands what kind of person I am, as I do him. We will take pictures. If I lose, I will be the first to admit it here. If I win, he will admit it. Either way, we both feel that this is something we both have to do now. He and I have a lot of the same feelings about challenges and we both repsct each other. Maybe more after this weekend. But for now, we have agreed to the terms. While the rest of you just get to smile, and read, and wonder what fulfillment YOU will get out of your fishing this weekend. He and I will have a lot to talk about and remember. Even if one of us comes up short on weight. It really doesn't matter. We will know that instead of just talking the talk. We walked it.

Well spoken steez

So...no GPS. Only sonar and down scan.
Can I use minnows and live crawfish?

I dink u got doo-doo brain.......

He's just talking out of his arse now. He knows he's going to use his buddies waypoints or he wouldn't have mentioned it. Now that it's bit him he's backtracking. Typical of people who talk a lot, before thinking. And he certainly likes to talk a lot.

There for sure needs to be a live update thread running Saturday.

5 pages. Not counting all the deleted posts. And personal threats to me via PM. Haha. I feel like I might need to change my name and take all the identifying trademark stuff off my jeep and boat. Go REALLY DEEP under cover. might even have to have my Humminbirds erased by the geek squad.

As for Okie.... I guess I will bring some cash. I know the gas stations don't like it when I try to buy a snickers bar with hundred dollar bills. So I will have to just deposit your money on Monday.

I thought this out...