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#11252668 - 11/29/15 05:36 PM Backing on a reel
Brandon Farrell Offline
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What type of line do you use to backing on your reels? cheap mono or braid?
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#11252672 - 11/29/15 05:39 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
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Whenever I use backing I use an old spool of some type of mono. I don't use backing on reels that I use for long casts.

I think it was Aaron Martens that likes to use braid as backing on his reels. I have never tried that.

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#11252673 - 11/29/15 05:39 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
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Cheap mono

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#11253133 - 11/29/15 08:38 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
jafish Offline
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IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.
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#11253146 - 11/29/15 08:43 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: jafish]
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Originally Posted By: jafish
IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.


I have been backing my reels with braid for a few years and never had this happen.

I spool on the backing then stretch my backing out while attached to a fixed object, then reel the backing in very tightly, then add my main line. I've never had an issue.
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#11253180 - 11/29/15 09:01 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Doug R.]
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Originally Posted By: Doug R.
Originally Posted By: jafish
IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.


I have been backing my reels with braid for a few years and never had this happen.

I spool on the backing then stretch my backing out while attached to a fixed object, then reel the backing in very tightly, then add my main line. I've never had an issue.
Sounds like a lot of extra work to simply overcome a bad decision to use braid as a backing. Haha. Just use cheap mono....or better yet, just spool the reel with a full 100 yards of something good.
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#11253229 - 11/29/15 09:18 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
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Braid will give you a bit more casting distance as a backing....just put one turn of tape on spool ..... It won't slip anymore
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#11253242 - 11/29/15 09:23 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: SteezMacQueen]
jafish Offline
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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted By: Doug R.
Originally Posted By: jafish
IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.


I have been backing my reels with braid for a few years and never had this happen.

I spool on the backing then stretch my backing out while attached to a fixed object, then reel the backing in very tightly, then add my main line. I've never had an issue.
Sounds like a lot of extra work to simply overcome a bad decision to use braid as a backing. Haha. Just use cheap mono....or better yet, just spool the reel with a full 100 yards of something good.


Nice to have that braid there when needed. Just returned from Falcon. You don't need to respool the whole thing when it's setting there in reserve. Don't always want braid but use it only when needed. More of a where are you fishing today and how. Great versatility thing. There is reason they make braid. If you don't know why I guess you wouldn't need it. Just saying.


Edited by jafish (11/29/15 09:30 PM)
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#11253265 - 11/29/15 09:36 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Doug R.]
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Originally Posted By: Doug R.
Originally Posted By: jafish
IF YOU USE BRAID ON THE SPOOL IT WILL SLIP UNLESS IT IS INSTALLED VERY TIGHT. When you set the hook the whole spool of line will turn. You can get a hold of the line and turn it with your fingers when the spool is locked. Install the braid very very tight on the spindel to get it to grip. Just saying.


I have been backing my reels with braid for a few years and never had this happen.

I spool on the backing then stretch my backing out while attached to a fixed object, then reel the backing in very tightly, then add my main line. I've never had an issue.




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#11253267 - 11/29/15 09:38 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
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Go on YouTube and search for "Aaron Martins braid backing" he explains why u need to use braid and why backing is smart to use. It's stupid to put on 100yds of line when ur only gonna use half of it before ur spool get low. Once you spoil gets half full your casting distance decreases and your gear ratio slows down. Most my reels except for deep cranking and deep water tecnique reels I used half backing half mainline which is usually floro

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#11253279 - 11/29/15 09:45 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
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Call me old fashioned, or wasteful, whatever. I still spool whatever line I'm using straight to the reel. All knots are weak points where something can and inevitably will go wrong. Fewer knots makes me feel better. And none of the line I use is very expensive, P Line CXX, Power Pro slick braid, and occasionally Big Game. . .I don't mind junking a little of it. Small price to pay for peace of mind.

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#11253287 - 11/29/15 09:51 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: timwins31]
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Originally Posted By: timwins31
Call me old fashioned, or wasteful, whatever. I still spool whatever line I'm using straight to the reel. All knots are weak points where something can and inevitably will go wrong. Fewer knots makes me feel better. And none of the line I use is very expensive, P Line CXX, Power Pro slick braid, and occasionally Big Game. . .I don't mind junking a little of it. Small price to pay for peace of mind.


It is backing. Doesn't matter how weak the knot is. You should never get to the knot.

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#11253299 - 11/29/15 09:58 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Go on YouTube and search for "Aaron Martins braid backing" he explains why u need to use braid and why backing is smart to use. It's stupid to put on 100yds of line when ur only gonna use half of it before ur spool get low. Once you spoil gets half full your casting distance decreases and your gear ratio slows down. Most my reels except for deep cranking and deep water tecnique reels I used half backing half mainline which is usually floro


Then there are those (me) that say using a spool that is heavy and has too much line capacity is stupid. So I use 50 sized spools that are aftermarket and hold less line and cast much better. Greatly increased distance and more accurate. Only downfall is my reels only hold 150' of line. Oh well. I guess I will never know the advantages of adding excess line to a heavy, slow spinning spool, only to crutch it with adding additional knots and line types. And tape... And backlashes. I'd rather spend an extra $100 on a better, much lighter, faster spool and a couple ceramic bearings. A few 1000 yard spools of InvisX will last me about 6 months of hard fishing. Using 18 combos.
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#11253420 - 11/29/15 11:09 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
txmasterpo Offline
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Steez, my brother, you are a hard head and set in your ways! But you alright noidea
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#11253422 - 11/29/15 11:12 PM Re: Backing on a reel [Re: Brandon Farrell]
txmasterpo Offline
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Braid is lighter, that's why some PRO'S say it's their backing of choice, and that's why a reel with braid backing casts farther than a regular guy spool full of mono or fluoro....
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