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#11230005 - 11/17/15 06:47 PM Why is this?
DancesWithSquirrels Offline

Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 75
Loc: Carrollton, Texas
Has anyone noticed that TPWD stocks most of the Neighborhood Fishin' program spots with ONLY catfish and the winter trout? I'm fine with trout, but catfish get boring after a while. How come no one stocks bass that much these days?

#11230265 - 11/17/15 08:40 PM Re: Why is this? [Re: DancesWithSquirrels]
A J V Offline
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Registered: 05/22/09
Posts: 547
Loc: Fort Worth tx
These neighborhood fishing spots are more oriented towards kids and families that want to get into fishing. Catfish tend to survive under rougher conditions and are easier to catch. Bass are more elusive and require mostly lures. Therefore they'd rather stock cats instead of bass.

#11230988 - 11/18/15 08:58 AM Re: Why is this? [Re: DancesWithSquirrels]
Indianation65 Offline
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Registered: 05/07/13
Posts: 6549
Loc: Richardson, Texas
...makes sense...too bad though.


#11231539 - 11/18/15 01:29 PM Re: Why is this? [Re: DancesWithSquirrels]
DancesWithSquirrels Offline

Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 75
Loc: Carrollton, Texas
Ah, this does make sense. Thank you.

#11231713 - 11/18/15 03:07 PM Re: Why is this? [Re: DancesWithSquirrels]
JIM SR. Offline
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Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 6268
Loc: NRH/Fork again ! GET THE NET
I never understood the trout stocking in Texas,..most are gone in a few months.
I think stocking with cats and bream would be great for neighborhoods, and a few LMB.

#11231953 - 11/18/15 05:30 PM Re: Why is this? [Re: JIM SR.]
Fishbreeder Offline
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Registered: 02/07/10
Posts: 1307
Loc: Brazoria County, Texas
Basically, for the money spent, trout and catfish purchased from large producers East of here are among the cheapest and best deals TPDW can get for fish to put in its urban fisheries program, unlike a lot of their programs, one which I believe is more of a genuine success than a public relations one.

Bass are expensive to produce, difficult to grow and manage in city ponds, and are quickly and easily removed from the fishery anyway. Not the best choice for urban fisheries. Catfish and trout can be purchased "ready to catch" for cheap from large farms and provide for a good alternative to be used in a "put and take" type fishery.

Or put like this, even a fairly well stocked and managed bass pond will be quickly "fished out" if more than about ten or twenty pounds of bass per acre are removed annually. In most cases the bass can be caught and removed about as fast as they get big enough to bite a hook, yielding the 10 pounds of catch or so per acre per year. Say twenty or so half pounders.

In one day for not much money, an urban pond can be stocked with a few thousand pounds of trout and provide a lot of fishing activity for a good period of time before they are all caught out. Generally the state stocks 1/3 pound (three count) trout most of the time. In some ponds these may grow to several pounds before being caught.

Basically the same deal for catfish.

And price structure.....maybe they get trout for around $2.75 or $3/lb. catfish for around $1.50 or so. I got no idea on their fingerling production cost, but know by the pound, even 1/3 or half pound bass are costly. More like $20 to $50 a pound.

For the money, trout and catfish are darn good deals for urban ponds.

#11232189 - 11/18/15 07:39 PM Re: Why is this? [Re: Fishbreeder]
DancesWithSquirrels Offline

Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 75
Loc: Carrollton, Texas
Thank you for the information!

#11232435 - 11/18/15 09:55 PM Re: Why is this? [Re: DancesWithSquirrels]
SoonerDG Offline
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Registered: 02/15/02
Posts: 1483
Loc: Joshua, TX
They stock trout in winter and then cats in the spring because the cats eat the remaining trout before the warming water kills them off.
"Life is a matter of luck and the odds of success are in no way enhanced by extreme caution." - Erich Topp, German U-boat Commander, 1943.

When in doubt, set the hook.


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