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#11214772 - 11/09/15 11:07 AM Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues
ifeliciano Offline
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I have a 18'8" Ranger 188VS with a 175 Merc and 23. It seems my hole-shot and getting on plane have suffered tremendously after installing a Talon shallow water anchor. I have transom brackets for two Talons, but running one at the moment. When I slam the throttle all the way forward (motor trimmed down), my bow goes way up in the air and takes forever to go on plane.

What can I do to improve my hole-shot and getting on plane quicker?
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#11214830 - 11/09/15 11:25 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
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Do you have a jackplate? Install a holeshot plate

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#11214919 - 11/09/15 12:16 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
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common problem when adding anchors.

1) 6" plate.(with hole shot plate)
2) make sure the talons are mounted as high as possible
3) go to to a 4 blade prop, or a "tuned" 3 blade

4) move some weight back up front (this will also slow boat down at w.o.t.)

these will help.


Edited by steve@scp (11/09/15 12:16 PM)
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#11214954 - 11/09/15 12:37 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: kb55]
ifeliciano Offline
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Originally Posted By: kb55
Do you have a jackplate? Install a holeshot plate


No sir, no JackPlate installed
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#11214976 - 11/09/15 12:50 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: steve@hydrodynamics]
ifeliciano Offline
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Originally Posted By: steve@scp
common problem when adding anchors.

1) 6" plate.(with hole shot plate) Can I still use the transom brackets for my Talons or will I need to change to jackplate mounts?
2) make sure the talons are mounted as high as possible. OK. Currently level with bottom of boat.
3) go to to a 4 blade prop, or a "tuned" 3 blade

4) move some weight back up front (this will also slow boat down at w.o.t.) Got it. Will move some stowage upfront. Although not that much.

these will help.



No. 2 and 4. I can check today after work. Sent you a PM on the other two.
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#11215072 - 11/09/15 01:39 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
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i replied to your pm.

i can get ya fixed up
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#11216612 - 11/10/15 11:42 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: steve@hydrodynamics]
ifeliciano Offline
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Originally Posted By: steve@scp
common problem when adding anchors.


2) make sure the talons are mounted as high as possible


Is this high enough. the gap is from the "step" on ranger boats.

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#11217657 - 11/10/15 09:12 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
M Wyatt Offline
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I moved my talons all the way up, as high as they would go. Also removed 1 pvs plug from my tempest prop. Hole shot is great now.
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#11217700 - 11/10/15 09:33 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: M Wyatt]
ifeliciano Offline
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Originally Posted By: M Wyatt
I moved my talons all the way up, as high as they would go. Also removed 1 pvs plug from my tempest prop. Hole shot is great now.


Will try that. As soon as I can get out to the lake.
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#11218244 - 11/11/15 09:02 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
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The mounting brackets for the Talons are like big wings that dig into the water when trying to get on plane thus creating hole shot issues. Like said above make sure the brackets are all the way up. I have heard some people have actually used power pole brackets to help reduce the drag.
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#11218630 - 11/11/15 11:50 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: Tommy Yetts]
ifeliciano Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tommy Yetts
The mounting brackets for the Talons are like big wings that dig into the water when trying to get on plane thus creating hole shot issues. Like said above make sure the brackets are all the way up. I have heard some people have actually used power pole brackets to help reduce the drag.


Tommy. The transom mounting brackets are pre-drilled and I could only fit it to a specific set of holes when mounting. There is no up/down adjustments, except for the Talon itself. On the other hand, the jackplate mounting brackets do offer some adjustment.



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#11221963 - 11/13/15 09:09 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
Tommy Yetts Offline
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Originally Posted By: ifeliciano
Originally Posted By: Tommy Yetts
The mounting brackets for the Talons are like big wings that dig into the water when trying to get on plane thus creating hole shot issues. Like said above make sure the brackets are all the way up. I have heard some people have actually used power pole brackets to help reduce the drag.


Tommy. The transom mounting brackets are pre-drilled and I could only fit it to a specific set of holes when mounting. There is no up/down adjustments, except for the Talon itself. On the other hand, the jackplate mounting brackets do offer some adjustment.




You are correct if you are using the first brackets you show. Make sure that the angle of the arm is all the way back as far as they can go.
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#11243920 - 11/25/15 09:51 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: Tommy Yetts]
ifeliciano Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tommy Yetts
You are correct if you are using the first brackets you show. Make sure that the angle of the arm is all the way back as far as they can go.


Tommy. So move the arm as close to the transom as possible?

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#11245681 - 11/26/15 07:26 AM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
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#11246438 - 11/26/15 02:32 PM Re: Hole-Shot and getting on plane issues [Re: ifeliciano]
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Cool. Thanks!!
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