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#11192838 - 10/28/15 09:07 PM Sink Tip
formula462 Offline
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What is the best sink tip line for an 8wt.rod that casts well? I've been using floating line for bass fishing and not working to get the bait down.

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#11193332 - 10/29/15 08:35 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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Orvis Hydros Sink Tip.


Edited by Lane H. (10/29/15 08:36 AM)
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#11193358 - 10/29/15 08:47 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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If your intention is to get deep fast the Rio outbound is the way to go. I also really like the sa streamer express. And if you want a floating running line instead of a intermediate I like teeny. For 8 wt look for a head weight of 300-350. But it all depends on how deep you are trying to go in regards to picking the best line for the application.
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#11193386 - 10/29/15 09:00 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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I use the Rio Outbound 315 grain Sink 6 shooting head when fishing deep from a boat. Roll cast to lay it out, one back cast, and shoot.
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#11193502 - 10/29/15 10:00 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
formula462 Offline
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Thanks for the replies I will research the lines..I need to practice the roll and shoot more.

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#11194015 - 10/29/15 02:59 PM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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As the other others mentioned Sink Tip is a only useful in some very specific situations. If you don't have some full sink or intermediate line already and are just trying "to get the fly down" to some bass past 10 feet, invest in those first. If you are in a pinch and just trying to get the fly down to 10 foot or less, try switching to a longer fluorocarbon leader on your floating line. A clouser or other well weighted bass fly will drop much faster on a flouro leader the action will certainly be different than a full sinking rig, but not necessarily worse. Good luck!

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#11194291 - 10/29/15 06:07 PM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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I despise casting a sink tip line. First you gotta get it up in the water column, then you get to try to cast it.
I can do it, but I don't like it. Just one guy's opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it. nuts

Kirk


Edited by Crazy4oldcars (10/29/15 06:08 PM)
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#11194939 - 10/29/15 11:37 PM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
formula462 Offline
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using a longer leader makes sense and the baits im using should get it down with a nice presentation and generally fish less than 15'
I have an extra spool for the sage reel so what line would you load it with? Sink tip,full sink?

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#11195051 - 10/30/15 06:43 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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I'd go with the teeny t300. It's a 24 ft head and floating running line.
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#11195411 - 10/30/15 09:54 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: Crazy4oldcars]
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Originally Posted By: Crazy4oldcars
I despise casting a sink tip line. First you gotta get it up in the water column, then you get to try to cast it.
I can do it, but I don't like it. Just one guy's opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it. nuts

Kirk


Switch Rod was my answer. Lot less work. 2 hand it or single hand it.
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#11195425 - 10/30/15 09:59 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: Crazy4oldcars]
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Originally Posted By: Crazy4oldcars
I despise casting a sink tip line. First you gotta get it up in the water column, then you get to try to cast it.
I can do it, but I don't like it. Just one guy's opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it. nuts

Kirk


Yep. cheers

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#11195527 - 10/30/15 10:47 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: formula462]
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I just ordered a 3 weight fiberglass rod. I am going to use it for subsurface fishing only. I was thinking about putting on an intermediate line. Any suggestions on good intermediate lines? Do the Teeny lines work better? Do they cast well?

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#11195921 - 10/30/15 02:24 PM Re: Sink Tip [Re: winchester44]
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Originally Posted By: winchester44
As the other others mentioned Sink Tip is a only useful in some very specific situations. If you don't have some full sink or intermediate line already and are just trying "to get the fly down" to some bass past 10 feet, invest in those first. If you are in a pinch and just trying to get the fly down to 10 foot or less, try switching to a longer fluorocarbon leader on your floating line. A clouser or other well weighted bass fly will drop much faster on a flouro leader the action will certainly be different than a full sinking rig, but not necessarily worse. Good luck!


+1 this is the way I now fish when I wade the shores of Twok. That being said...IMHO full sinking is better than sinking tip (little or no bow in full sinker)if you can handle it. I like Rio and they make a series of density compensated full sinking lines.
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#11196345 - 10/30/15 06:21 PM Re: Sink Tip [Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
formula462 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bass_Bustin_Texan
Originally Posted By: Crazy4oldcars
I despise casting a sink tip line. First you gotta get it up in the water column, then you get to try to cast it.
I can do it, but I don't like it. Just one guy's opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it. nuts

Kirk


Switch Rod was my answer. Lot less work. 2 hand it or single hand it.


Just when I thought I had all the gear I needed a switch rod is mentioned. I looked at some video and and it looks like it would suit my type of fishing so I may add one to the arsenal

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#11201293 - 11/02/15 09:32 AM Re: Sink Tip [Re: Zip-ur-Fly]
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Loc: Fort Worth
Originally Posted By: Zip-ur-Fly
Originally Posted By: winchester44
As the other others mentioned Sink Tip is a only useful in some very specific situations. If you don't have some full sink or intermediate line already and are just trying "to get the fly down" to some bass past 10 feet, invest in those first. If you are in a pinch and just trying to get the fly down to 10 foot or less, try switching to a longer fluorocarbon leader on your floating line. A clouser or other well weighted bass fly will drop much faster on a flouro leader the action will certainly be different than a full sinking rig, but not necessarily worse. Good luck!


+1 this is the way I now fish when I wade the shores of Twok. That being said...IMHO full sinking is better than sinking tip (little or no bow in full sinker)if you can handle it. I like Rio and they make a series of density compensated full sinking lines.



Well said! That clouser and a longer flouro leader will eventually drag a floating line under forming a "bow". Before it sinks that deep you will have hinge in your line where the leader meets the tip of the floating line. The action this gives your fly will be different than using a full sinking line where everything in theory should sink at about the same rate. Sinking line will give your sinking fly more of a darting action as you strip in. This is probably better for most situations.

Fishing a sinking fly on floating line will give your fly more of an up and down "jigging" motion. It will move laterally, but also up and down. This can be productive in some situations like maybe trying to imitate a wounded bait fish on the edge of school.

I think Lefty Kreh is on record as saying Sink Tips are the hardest to cast. I can't say I disagree. If you are just starting out and targeting bass and happy with your floating, ask your local shop to recommend a good full sinking line for bass. It's really nice to have spare spools for all your lines, but still make sure to tie big perfection loops in the end of your fly line and your backing for loop to and save your old

There's no one line that's best all the time, just best for certain situations.

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