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Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Jason Delfraisse] #11139232 10/01/15 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jason Delfraisse
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I think a meeting is needed on several matters here but it needs to be private between store owners and their organizers. A PM would be good idea to set the time and date.

I'm headed to the coast the 12-18. Good luck guys! I've got salt on the brain for the next couple weeks and 2016 season is the last thing on my mind.


That was recently suggested to me by another shop owner......I prefer the open format for now.........I agree, there will be a time for that but I'm really liking all of the feedback and new suggestions we are seeing here. So for now, I'm an inclusive open forum vote!


I have to agree with yakintime...an open forum where we can take everyone's ideas into consideration is a good way to make these events something that everyone will love and enjoy. The amount of knowledge we can all gain from a public open form can be unreal!

Contestant input is needed on what they want out of a tourney. I'm all open for that type of discussion. Those are not "the matters" I was thinking need to be private.

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Open forms a great! However, when you are trying to organize something, 1,000 conflicting ideas doesn't do any good. Nobody wants to sit through a six hour meeting and accomplish nothing....

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11139423 10/01/15 06:32 PM
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If all retailer decide to co-host what would the trail be governed by? What would the trail be called?

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11140452 10/02/15 02:18 AM
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Not everyone who says they will do something will actually fallow through. Also,
to many have had different motives and conflics is my best answer to the question possed.
IMO a tourneys needs to be fun and the water needs to be primo to keep the average tourney angler coming back for more. No one can control the weather of course :-/
Eventually the compitition will demand larger payouts and prizes n rightfuly so. I foresee $10k 1st place tourneys, Hobie PAs & or a trucks.

I see it happening already. Clicks and bad character have slowed the growth of the existing yak tourneys on some truly great Texas waters IMO. But there is still hope. The potential is there and when the right group of folks work together, it will happen. wink


Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11140719 10/02/15 05:17 AM
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Yall work out the details and then I'm going to come out of retirement and spank your sorry butts! banana

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: H.Town_paddler] #11140723 10/02/15 05:22 AM
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Well come on with it Dan!

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Jason Delfraisse] #11140826 10/02/15 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jason Delfraisse
We will be hosting more clinics at the shop Kevin. One a month actually. This months will be on the water Saturday, during the gtg. Stay tuned for the next one. As I know you fill be fishing. As for following people around unless it's a serious tournament I have no problems explaining who what where when and why I am doing what ever it may be. Just ask!



Actually the next clinic is the 20th at 6:30 p.m and it is a rep from Lowrance teaching us all about marine electronics.

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Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Jerry Hamon] #11140969 10/02/15 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Hamon
Originally Posted By: Jason Delfraisse
We will be hosting more clinics at the shop Kevin. One a month actually. This months will be on the water Saturday, during the gtg. Stay tuned for the next one. As I know you fill be fishing. As for following people around unless it's a serious tournament I have no problems explaining who what where when and why I am doing what ever it may be. Just ask!



Actually the next clinic is the 20th at 6:30 p.m and it is a rep from Lowrance teaching us all about marine electronics.


My my, there is a LOT going on. My thanks to Jerry and Jason for tirelessly giving back to the kayak fishing community with a wide variety of support!
Marine Electronics has been on of the most asked for clinics......and I might say the most difficult to organize. Jerry persevered an now we have one! And did I mention that Jason is also cooking BRISKET for the HOW G2G? Well he is! These guys are ......smokin'!

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: The Ninja] #11141408 10/02/15 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Ninja
If all retailer decide to co-host what would the trail be governed by? What would the trail be called?


My suggestion for government one tournament Coordinator and each retailer appoints a tournament director this way when Retailer A has an event that director runs the weigh in with the other directors assisting to lessen the burden on one person. The coordinator would then coordinate prizes, advertisement, entertainment/food and meetings for each event with the owners. This might allow the directors and coordinator by assisting each other to actually participate in the events. This would also allow the Owners to be one step back and have an independent board of directors that would just come to them when it is time to contact vendors for sponsorship prizes.

My suggestion for a name DFWKRT Dallas Fort Worth Kayak Retailers Trail, the reason I say Trail instead of Tournament Trail is then the retailers can decide to add alternative events for example something similar to KATS teams as another way to enhance the experience and include more participants once they have something ironed out and running smoothly.

My 2 cents and change, thanks to the owners for stepping up to put something together our region can appreciate and enjoy.


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Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11141548 10/02/15 05:44 PM
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Thanks Bert! Great suggestions......another reason I love the open forum discovery process!
I like the name but let's substitute Fishing for Retailers - just my opinion.......

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Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11141586 10/02/15 06:02 PM
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I agree with Mark we need one person to be a non-bias not associated with any shop be tournament director. Might be impossible to get.

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: The Ninja] #11141637 10/02/15 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Ninja
I agree with Mark we need one person to be a non-bias not associated with any shop be tournament director. Might be impossible to get.

That would be a great option too Ninja..............seems almost everyone has a bunch of sponsor mentions in their signatures so I agree......that option may be hard. Heck, just finding one person with that kind of time may be hard.

Mark had quite a few accurate observations. Having run and sponsored events personally, he has some good experience and a very real view of the challenges before us.

We'll be lucky if any one person or shop comes up with the perfect idea but something tells me we're getting some pretty good material to work with!

Thanks Ninja - PS - we'll miss you at the G2G this weekend, that pesky work is always getting in the way!

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11142944 10/03/15 03:51 PM
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I've read and agree with the tourney concepts presented in this forum. However, I have no interest in bass fishing but, would love to see this discussion to include crappie as well.
......again, just my 2cents

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11144570 10/04/15 06:23 PM
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Backwoods is certainly on board with a meeting to discuss the future of tournaments and a coordinated effort to put together a more consolidated and meaningful schedule of tournaments in the DFW/North Texas area. Rick, I sent you a PM.

Re: What's wrong with DFW kayak tournaments? [Re: Coach P] #11148297 10/06/15 04:03 PM
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Are any of the Fort Worth Area Shop Owners considering the proposed Thursday the 15th of October discovery meeting in Grapevine? If not, do you have an alternative date/location suggestion?

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