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Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 05:26 PM
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Fishin Machine
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For those of you who do it, Do you use a heavier fluorocarbon leader (meaning 12# or higher)? I might also try this technique for Shaky too
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 05:32 PM
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RedRaider3933
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15 would be the absolute heaviest I would go. For the drop shot I stick to 10 or less 95% of the time.
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 05:42 PM
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HARD WORKN HAROLD
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What Red said Triple overhand surgeons knot, before you ask.
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 05:48 PM
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What Red said Triple overhand surgeons knot, before you ask. Is it stronger than the Alberto Knot? I just learned that over the weekend....
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 05:52 PM
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RedRaider3933
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I just use double uni. Got pretty good at tying it quickly and hasn't failed me yet. Goes through the guides well too.
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 06:06 PM
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SkeeterEater
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I go as small as I can... But honestly it totally depends on the cover. 8 on open structure and maybe 17-20 for heavy cover.
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 06:43 PM
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Brad R
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RedRaider3933,
The junction version of a uni knot, joining two lines together, would be better called a "uni to uni" knot; the double uni knot is what guys like Bo at Nutech Lures tie where a standard uni has its line doubled over. Aaron Martens also uses a double uni knot like this sometimes.
Fishin Machine,
For a finesse drop shot rig, I use 10 lbs. braid (Sufix 832) tied to an 8 lbs. fluorocarbon leader (I use Seaguar Invisx). Some of the pros drop to 6 lbs. straight fluorocarbon or leaders when they want more bites.
Any three of the top junction knots will work well: a uni-to-uni, an Alberto/Albright version of a junction knot, or the strongest and thinnest of them all, an FG knot.
The first two are the easiest and fastest to tie.
Brad
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/28/15 09:12 PM
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ezbassin
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What Red said Triple overhand surgeons knot, before you ask. Is it stronger than the Alberto Knot? I just learned that over the weekend.... I tie a 12 pound leader of Invizx to my braid on my drop shot spinning rod using an Alberto knot. That knot has never failed me, it is easy to tie and it is fairly small. Now with that being said, I am one of those that prefer to use a baitcaster rod and reel for dropshotting and have a full spool of 12 pound test Invizx. I use a #1 Owner rigging hook and Tx.pose the finesse worm. I use 12# Invizx because I fish around a lot of timber in Lake Fork so I don't go with anything lighter.
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 12:11 AM
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Thanks guys... I had some 8 and 10 but just ordered some 12 and it should be here in a few days. Spooled with 20# braid 6# diameter.
A friend of mine talked me into trying this braid to fluoro combo. Gonna keep practicing my knot and I guess I'll find out this coming Saturday
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 03:29 AM
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James Biggs
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14lbs braid to 7-10lbs shooter flouro. Alberto knot with a 20' leader. I fish this a ton!
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 04:32 AM
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Danny L. Weems
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14lbs braid to 7-10lbs shooter flouro. Alberto knot with a 20' leader. I fish this a ton! Why such a long leader James?
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 06:19 AM
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COWBOYSFAN008
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I still don't get the whole leader thing. If your fishing with 20lb braid and you tie a 10 lb floro leader, you are now fishing with 10 lb floro leader. Why use the braid? You've got a whole spool of braid just to fish a lighter floro line, makes no sense.
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 10:28 AM
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Jigfish
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Uni to uni is a good and easy knot. Have used it for years and never broke the knot.
Thanks,
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 11:49 AM
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Nutman
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I still don't get the whole leader thing. If your fishing with 20lb braid and you tie a 10 lb floro leader, you are now fishing with 10 lb floro leader. Why use the braid? You've got a whole spool of braid just to fish a lighter floro line, makes no sense. THIS ! Someone PLEASE explain to me the reason you would fish a heavy line to a lighter line leader. WHY would you use braid for fish a drop shot in the first place. what am I missing here ?
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Re: Braid to Fluorocarbon for Dropshotting
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09/29/15 12:06 PM
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Brad R
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One reason for a relatively heavier test braid to fluorocarbon is most junction knots tie better, hold better, if the two lines are close to the same diameter. Braid is so thin.
The other reason is it is hard to find braids much under 10 lbs. test. Sufix 832 only goes down to 10 lbs. as I recall. Not sure about the others.
I get the question, by the way, but it isn't that the fluorocarbon leader is not sufficient, that you are losing anything, it is that the braid is way too strong. That 6 or 8 lbs. fluorocarbon leader has been proven to work extremely well in clear waters, and in heavily pressured waters. Ask the current AOY winner.
And, for the question about a 20 ft. leader, I have used them long like that, way longer, but I bet in this case it is to give room for a re-tie if your line gets snapped. If you master the strongest of all junction knots, the FG, you'd never feel it coming off the rod. It is that small. I don't think many folks want to tie a junction knot on a kayak or a boat. Time consuming, anyway.
Another big reason: the braid casts so much better, doesn't twist up as easily.
Brad
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