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Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: slim 285] #11135799 09/30/15 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: slim 285
There might just be too many unders . I set on one point during Sealy's and caught close to eighty small fish . With only one descent size under

SMDH!!!
Those were this year's spawn.
You do know that it takes a fingerling app. 4 years to get to 16 inches on Fork, right?
This is the kind of [censored] I'm talking about.
Whacking 8,9,10 inch fish is not helping recruitment into the slot!
A bunch of those 80 fish you caught will probably have an injury that will eventually kill them.

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Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Nutman] #11135859 09/30/15 01:10 AM
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SMDH ? What is that ?

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Nutman] #11135884 09/30/15 01:24 AM
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Here's what it means.
Tournaments on Fork that force anglers to target the "unders", will cause these anglers to pound on yearling bass, hoping to catch 5 weighable fish.
Little fish are fragile, and a lot of them simply won't survive hookups.

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: slim 285] #11135915 09/30/15 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: slim 285
SMDH ? What is that ?



Shaking my (damn/dang/darn/dumb/dense) head. Not sure why he'd do that though, the guy was fishing and the point of fishing is trying to catch fish. You fellas should come over to the South & Central Texas if you want to see sucky lakes.

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Nutman] #11135920 09/30/15 01:42 AM
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again I agree with you Richard there should be a solution to this under haunting . maybe some good tournament format that fits our slot lakes and that's not just Fork

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Dee Trammell] #11135963 09/30/15 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dee Trammell
again I agree with you Richard there should be a solution to this under haunting . maybe some good tournament format that fits our slot lakes and that's not just Fork

Good to see you post.
You do know that you are the only person on this forum that knows my origins.
From fishing Squaw Creek in the early '80s out of my 2 man boat, to freezing our asses off on Granbury that day in the old 15 Trophy bass boat, after it broke.
That was back when my goal was to catch a legal keeper out of a public lake.,

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Richard McCarty] #11136009 09/30/15 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: Richard McCarty
Originally Posted By: slim 285
There might just be too many unders . I set on one point during Sealy's and caught close to eighty small fish . With only one descent size under

SMDH!!!
Those were this year's spawn.
You do know that it takes a fingerling app. 4 years to get to 16 inches on Fork, right?
This is the kind of [censored] I'm talking about.
Whacking 8,9,10 inch fish is not helping recruitment into the slot!
A bunch of those 80 fish you caught will probably have an injury that will eventually kill them.


Richard I've been reading this and other threads on this subject. And I've tended to agree with most of the things you say/claim. I can tell you are passionate about Fork. But sir, this statement is over the top. To criticize an angler for sitting on a point and catching too many fish is ridiculous. Get this conversation back to be credible and lets continue the constructive conversation.


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Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Anchorman] #11136029 09/30/15 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: Anchorman
Originally Posted By: Richard McCarty
Originally Posted By: slim 285
There might just be too many unders . I set on one point during Sealy's and caught close to eighty small fish . With only one descent size under

SMDH!!!
Those were this year's spawn.
You do know that it takes a fingerling app. 4 years to get to 16 inches on Fork, right?
This is the kind of [censored] I'm talking about.
Whacking 8,9,10 inch fish is not helping recruitment into the slot!
A bunch of those 80 fish you caught will probably have an injury that will eventually kill them.


Richard I've been reading this and other threads on this subject. And I've tended to agree with most of the things you say/claim. I can tell you are passionate about Fork. But sir, this statement is over the top. To criticize an angler for sitting on a point and catching too many fish is ridiculous. Get this conversation back to be credible and lets continue the constructive conversation.

Thanks.
My point in this statement was to put into perspective what a tournament that targets the "unders" on Fork will make a contestant do.
targeting these yearling bass, trying to catch a limit of "unders" really does kill a lot of small bass, that otherwise could grow into the slot healthy.
But, I do agree with you, my response was a little harsh. I apologize.

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Nutman] #11136040 09/30/15 02:29 AM
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Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Nutman] #11136051 09/30/15 02:33 AM
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Did you try live bait and cast netting?

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: fouzman] #11136313 09/30/15 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
We must also remember that the lake is 35 years old. Lakes change, become less fertile, lose habitat, etc. over that long a time. Fork is still a great lake, but she isn't what she once was. That's only natural but I agree with Mr. McCarty that she could use a rest. Especially from tournaments but that isn't going to happen, unfortunately.


fouz i think your drought argument is much more compelling than the age thing. here is why i say that. Look at the bassmaster top 100 list - i know its not scientific or anything, but its a decent list of top bass fisheries. I find it interesting there's only a few reservoirs (but a ton of natural lakes) above fork on the list and they are all older than Fork by a considerable margin. Guntersville for example is a perennial top-10 lake yet it was impounded in ... 1939?? None of them however were hit as hard as fork by the drought.

Having said all that - we are pretty spoiled to live in such close proximity to some of the best bass fishing on the planet.

Fork handed me my arse a few times this year, but i bet this winter and next spring we see topic titles posted here saying "Fork is on FIRE"

in general i think the bait this year stayed spread out, never really formed concentrations (excepting lake Athens) because they didn't have to - and for that reason we haven't seen the same concentrations of bass. the rule was always 90% of the fish occupy 10% of the water - but i don't think that was the case this year.

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Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Richard McCarty] #11136615 09/30/15 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Richard McCarty
Originally Posted By: Anchorman
Originally Posted By: Richard McCarty
Originally Posted By: slim 285
There might just be too many unders . I set on one point during Sealy's and caught close to eighty small fish . With only one descent size under

SMDH!!!
Those were this year's spawn.
You do know that it takes a fingerling app. 4 years to get to 16 inches on Fork, right?
This is the kind of [censored] I'm talking about.
Whacking 8,9,10 inch fish is not helping recruitment into the slot!
A bunch of those 80 fish you caught will probably have an injury that will eventually kill them.


Richard I've been reading this and other threads on this subject. And I've tended to agree with most of the things you say/claim. I can tell you are passionate about Fork. But sir, this statement is over the top. To criticize an angler for sitting on a point and catching too many fish is ridiculous. Get this conversation back to be credible and lets continue the constructive conversation.

Thanks.
My point in this statement was to put into perspective what a tournament that targets the "unders" on Fork will make a contestant do.
targeting these yearling bass, trying to catch a limit of "unders" really does kill a lot of small bass, that otherwise could grow into the slot healthy.
But, I do agree with you, my response was a little harsh. I apologize.


I don't think any tournament "targets" unders,,,,,but when you fish a slot lake and the big girls are hard to catch, guess what you are going to weigh in.
On lake Athens with the slot starting at 14 inches, the unders are even hard to put in the live well.
Speaking of Athens,,,,,,you guys quit talking about Athens and stay the heck away.
It is too small of a lake to support the pressure it has been getting.

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Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Richard McCarty] #11137883 09/30/15 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: Richard McCarty
Originally Posted By: slim 285
There might just be too many unders . I set on one point during Sealy's and caught close to eighty small fish . With only one descent size under

SMDH!!!
Those were this year's spawn.
You do know that it takes a fingerling app. 4 years to get to 16 inches on Fork, right?
This is the kind of [censored] I'm talking about.
Whacking 8,9,10 inch fish is not helping recruitment into the slot!
A bunch of those 80 fish you caught will probably have an injury that will eventually kill them.

Richard McCarty I am waiting on the definition SMDH please.

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: slim 285] #11137910 10/01/15 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: slim 285
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Originally Posted By: slim 285
There might just be too many unders . I set on one point during Sealy's and caught close to eighty small fish . With only one descent size under

SMDH!!!
Those were this year's spawn.
You do know that it takes a fingerling app. 4 years to get to 16 inches on Fork, right?
This is the kind of [censored] I'm talking about.
Whacking 8,9,10 inch fish is not helping recruitment into the slot!
A bunch of those 80 fish you caught will probably have an injury that will eventually kill them.

Richard McCarty I am waiting on the definition SMDH please.

It means Slap my damn head.
If you have to catch 80 fish to catch one decent "under" you might be on the wrong pattern.
Plus, no telling how much damage that does to those little guys.

Re: It does make a diffrence [Re: Nutman] #11138502 10/01/15 11:00 AM
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I'll get someone to stand on the bottom of the lake and hold a sign "Please, Nothing Under 14" Bite My Lure". fish

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