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#11099819 - 09/13/15 08:12 AM Beginner
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Extreme Angler

Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 1461
Loc: Fort Worth
I'm going to start tying my own flies this winter. I was looking fr suggestions on a good starter kit or should I buy the tools individually?
Thanks for put!
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#11100004 - 09/13/15 09:36 AM Re: Beginner [Re: Smurfs]
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Registered: 02/16/01
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Loc: McKinney TX USA
Buying good quality tools is best. If there is no other way, get a kit. But better tools will always make for an easier job.
That being said, there's good quality and expensive, so research it.
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#11100048 - 09/13/15 09:57 AM Re: Beginner [Re: rrhyne56]
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Registered: 01/31/14
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Loc: Fort Worth
Do u have reccomendations?
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#11100101 - 09/13/15 10:27 AM Re: Beginner [Re: Smurfs]
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Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 1082
Loc: Silsbee (Southeast Texas)
Hey, Smurfs! Welcome to the dark side!
This subject is one that seems to occur about every 6 months. Here is one from about a year ago.
The consensus among most tyers is that you would end up replacing most of the tools in the kit within a year of buying it. I bought the Cabela's Deluxe Tying Kit, which is on sale right now, as a travel kit. I also replaced a few of the included tools. First to go were the scissors. The one's in the kit were more than adequate, but I love my Dr. Slick's. blush
The Cabela's kit does not include materials. For materials, I would recommend Figuring out the materials you need to tie 3 or 4 fly patterns you know you want to tie, and buy just those materials.
For instance, for Wooly Buggers:
-3x long hooks, $6 brand per your preference (I buy the Aberdeen perch hooks and mal-mart)(start w/ size 8)
-6/0 or 140 Denier thread, $1.50 again your choice (I don't care for UNI brand, since, I believe, it is bonded and won't lay flat) In black or olive. (These are the 2 most recommended colors for WB's)
-Chenille $2.25 to match thread color in MEDIUM weight
-Marabou to match chenille and thread. $2.35 Go ahead and get the select or ultra select. It is worth the dollar or so difference in price.
-"Bugger Pack Strung Hackle" in the same color. $4.85 You can also contrast the colors if you want. Do you begin to see how this hobby starts to get expensive? :D)
-Weight (optional, to some people) Lead or lead-free wire, depending on both preference and local regulations. Some idiots have decided...Never mind... You can also add Beads or Cones or Eyes at the front of the hook to change the way the fly behaves on the retrieve.
-Dumbell Eyes $3 Tungsten $6
-Lead Wire $2.25 Lead free $3.25
-Bead Chain $1.50
-Beads Brass $2.25 Tung $3.55
-Coneheads Brass $3.25 Tung $3.55
(All prices are from jsflyfishing.com, except hooks)
The limiting factor for how many flies you will get out of this is probably going to be the quantity of hooks or the package quantity of the beads or cones. The other materials should tie 20 to 30 flies.
So. For around $25 (2 packs of walmart hooks and using the lead wire) you should get around 25 WBuggers.
Bass Pro has a WB 12-pack for 12.99, so $26 for 24 flies.
You just saved $2! banana

Regardless, you will get opinions on both side of this debate, kit vs buy individually. I'm on the Kit side of the field, as long as you are not buying a $12 el-cheapo kit off of ebay.

Kirk
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#11102256 - 09/13/15 11:24 PM Re: Beginner [Re: Smurfs]
HMK Offline
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Registered: 06/23/14
Posts: 480
I''ve used my kit made by Terra for over a year now. It's a plain simple vice and tool set. I paid 50 bucks for it. One of these days I would like a rotary vice, but this one hold the hook good. It is a little frustrating at times trying to adjust from large hook to small hook, but once set, it holds it good. The sissors are good, so is bobbin. Now the real question. Knowing what I know now, would I spend 50 bucks on it again.

It depends. If 50.00 was my price limit, Yes I would.

If I had 150.00 to spend, I'd buy a good vice and add tools every payday.

As far as materials, It's a never ending story. No matter how much stuff you have, there's always and I mean ALWAYS more you'll see and just have to buy it. For instance, I have 2 boxes full of Chenille. What do you think I saw last week that I just had to have? More Chenille!



Edited by HMK (09/13/15 11:31 PM)

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#11102650 - 09/14/15 09:42 AM Re: Beginner [Re: Smurfs]
RexW Offline
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Registered: 09/24/02
Posts: 2860
Loc: Sherman, TX
The best advice I can offer is to take time to head up to Lake Texoma for the "Texoma on the Fly" event this Saturday. Spend some time with the fly tiers and tie some flies using their equipment. It will help you to better understand what you need before you start spending your own money.

Good luck!
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