I did some experimenting. I went to Walmart and Academy and bought 1 of each kind of punch and dip bait they had. Put it all in one big bucket and stirred. Keep it in the garage in the heat and it almost liquefies. Day before fishing, put it in the refrigerator to harden. Next day, it stays on the hook just fine. Cant say which one is better bait or is better to stay on the hook, but the final product works just fine.