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#10980314 - 07/16/15 08:53 AM Maybe a silly question but...
Lil' Louie Offline
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Registered: 02/25/07
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I see different types of rods all the time. Some for frogs, spinnerbaits, jigs, etc.... Man alot of these rods are high dollar stuff...most I would say. I'm assuming most answers would be "yes" but I often wonder if these rods are worth the $200 or more dollars to invest in vs just getting med-hvy rods and using them for just about everything. Main question is what makes them different? The tips being faster? Made different? All of the above. Prolly a long answer.... I'm slowly but surely upgraded all my reels to what I think is high end stuff but dangit man.... I'm still a lil old school and just think it really isn't the equipment.
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#10980329 - 07/16/15 08:59 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
InTheClear Offline
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Registered: 09/28/12
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Loc: Southwest Texas at the moment
Weight, I can hold a G-Loomis for 10 hours. Others, wear me out after 20 minutes! Probably the most addicting fishing purchase I have ever made. They are expensive and own six going back to 1996.


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#10980332 - 07/16/15 09:00 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
Lil' Louie Offline
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ok that is true..... Good point. I switched over to mostly all EXO reels and theres a big difference in weight.
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#10980341 - 07/16/15 09:03 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
InTheClear Offline
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Pretty sad, I can't remember a whole lot now a days but I can remember the year I bought my first one!

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#10980347 - 07/16/15 09:06 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
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In my opinion, spend the money on your "feel" rods. (t-rig, jig, C-rig, shakey head, dropshot) For spinnerbaits, cranks, frogs, ect.. as long as you have the proper action matched up to the bait there's no reason to spend the big money for these other than the before mentioned weight of the rod factor. Again just my opinion. smile
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#10980370 - 07/16/15 09:12 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
M. Alexander Offline
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All they are are specialized tools for different jobs. A necessity? No, but they make getting the job done a little easier. It's no different than getting a fancy bass boat with all the bells and whistles. I caught plenty of fish as a kid from a 12' john boat with a trolling boat on the back, but it sure is nice to have the big flipping deck & the horses that my Ranger gives me.
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#10980376 - 07/16/15 09:14 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
C Worthy Offline
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For me it is definitely sensitivity and action. When fishing soft plastics, I can feel the fish think about biting, not really but if he/she touches that bait, I know it. Second is action. Try throwing a 1/16 oz weight/worm accurately with a med/heavy rod/fast action and then tie on a 3/4oz crankbait and throw it. To me composite crankbait rods are a dream come true but not worth a dime to fish plastics because they are about as sensitive as a broomstick. Rod ratings printed on the rod really are there to help you determine the correct lure/rod combination. One rod with just one rating just would not work for me. Great rods carry a hefty tag but also usually last a lifetime if you take care of them. Most have warranties that cover you doing something dumb which is good for me. smile
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#10980388 - 07/16/15 09:17 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: M. Alexander]
Lil' Louie Offline
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Originally Posted By: deuce41
All they are are specialized tools for different jobs. A necessity? No, but they make getting the job done a little easier. It's no different than getting a fancy bass boat with all the bells and whistles. I caught plenty of fish as a kid from a 12' john boat with a trolling boat on the back, but it sure is nice to have the big flipping deck & the horses that my Ranger gives me.


Good point. I'm a big feller so having the big deck up front sure is nice... Still can't catch nuttin though.
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#10980399 - 07/16/15 09:19 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
Lil' Louie Offline
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Another question. I hear alot about using 1 oz flipping weights. Man, I've never done it but just switching from a 1.4 oz to trying to accurately throw something 1/2 oz takes while to adjust. How long does it take yall to adjust from using almost weightless to flipping something 1 oz or bigger.... Maybe I'm just a wuss.
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#10980406 - 07/16/15 09:21 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
Nutman Offline
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Registered: 11/01/13
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Loc: Athens, TX
OKay,,,,
so now take this to the next level.
How much do you have to spend to get a worm rod that you can feel the bass "think" ?
and
what is the best rod in that price range ?
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#10980413 - 07/16/15 09:22 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: buda13]
Mulholland Offline
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Registered: 10/28/13
Posts: 1884
Loc: Plano, TX
Originally Posted By: buda13
In my opinion, spend the money on your "feel" rods. (t-rig, jig, C-rig, shakey head, dropshot) For spinnerbaits, cranks, frogs, ect.. as long as you have the proper action matched up to the bait there's no reason to spend the big money for these other than the before mentioned weight of the rod factor. Again just my opinion. smile


This parallels my sentiments, with an exception being that the proper action tends to take some money for cranking rods and such as well that tends to go hand in hand with sensitivity and lightness. That said, there is no rod you are buying for $200 that does anything a $100 rod won't do, it's just a matter of finding what you like action/length/power wise for each technique, and from there how much you spend dictates only the lightness and sensitivity of the rod. I would definitely invest in a rod more than a reel though except for whatever baitcast rig you use to through tiny baits.

I always find it funny how much more excited and willing to splurge money on reels most anglers are than rods... it's bizarre to me. A super high end reel is so much less useful than a super sensitive rod. I would rather fish with a zebco 404 on a veritas than a revo on a cane pole any day haha, not super expensive examples but you get the picture!

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#10980415 - 07/16/15 09:23 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
timwins31 Offline
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A light crankbait rod will make your day so much better. And the sensitivity that comes with the lighter, higher quality rods is a difference maker. I don't mind using a lower level rod for most moving baits but for soft plastics I want the most sensitive rod I can reasonably afford.

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#10980426 - 07/16/15 09:25 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Lil' Louie]
InTheClear Offline
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Registered: 09/28/12
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Loc: Southwest Texas at the moment
I'm not a scientist but, I would think that the lighter the rod the more feel you have? I can count tree-bark on a Texas Rig 7' MH G-Loomis IMX.

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#10980431 - 07/16/15 09:27 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Nutman]
Lil' Louie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nutman
OKay,,,,
so now take this to the next level.
How much do you have to spend to get a worm rod that you can feel the bass "think" ?
and
what is the best rod in that price range ?


lol. nananananananna be the worm..... beeee the worm....
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#10980441 - 07/16/15 09:29 AM Re: Maybe a silly question but... [Re: Mulholland]
Lil' Louie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mulholland
Originally Posted By: buda13
In my opinion, spend the money on your "feel" rods. (t-rig, jig, C-rig, shakey head, dropshot) For spinnerbaits, cranks, frogs, ect.. as long as you have the proper action matched up to the bait there's no reason to spend the big money for these other than the before mentioned weight of the rod factor. Again just my opinion. smile


This parallels my sentiments, with an exception being that the proper action tends to take some money for cranking rods and such as well that tends to go hand in hand with sensitivity and lightness. That said, there is no rod you are buying for $200 that does anything a $100 rod won't do, it's just a matter of finding what you like action/length/power wise for each technique, and from there how much you spend dictates only the lightness and sensitivity of the rod. I would definitely invest in a rod more than a reel though except for whatever baitcast rig you use to through tiny baits.

I always find it funny how much more excited and willing to splurge money on reels most anglers are than rods... it's bizarre to me. A super high end reel is so much less useful than a super sensitive rod. I would rather fish with a zebco 404 on a veritas than a revo on a cane pole any day haha, not super expensive examples but you get the picture!


I guess I should say I found good deals on the EXO's I got. I sure didn't pay the retail price for em. I don't pay retail for much and usually buy slightly used or new things on sale. Unless someone wants to sponsor me and give me some discounts!!
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