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#10973167 - 07/13/15 06:54 AM Productive evening
Freshwater Phil Offline
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Registered: 01/10/13
Posts: 264
Loc: North of the Border
Took my 14 year old son out for his first night session. Started off hitting a nice 21 lbs muddler within 10 minutes.


Once night fell, he ended up beating his PB with a fat 27 lbs common.


Edited by Freshwater Phil (07/13/15 06:55 AM)
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PB common = 38.5 lbs
PB mirror = 22.5 lbs
PB musky = 52 inches (40 lb fatty)
PB blue cat = 59 lbs
PB lake sturgeon = 57 inches
PB alligator gar = 65 lbs

2015 big ones:


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#10975523 - 07/14/15 04:50 AM Re: Productive evening [Re: Freshwater Phil]
whiterockjesse Offline
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Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 6897
Loc: a dumpster at white rock lak...
I want to call that a mirror instead of a muddler . nice ones
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#10975543 - 07/14/15 05:58 AM Re: Productive evening [Re: Freshwater Phil]
banker-always fishing Online   content
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Loc: Universal City Tx.
Nice fish. Good job. cheers
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#10975885 - 07/14/15 09:34 AM Re: Productive evening [Re: whiterockjesse]
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Registered: 02/07/10
Posts: 1269
Loc: Brazoria County, Texas
Originally Posted By: whiterockjesse
I want to call that a mirror instead of a muddler . nice ones


Now I don't know what a "muddler" is, but I've been breeding koi for over 30 years and that fish would be called an "armor scaled" carp by koi enthusiasts. My guess they mean the same thing. I posted this in the past....


"Mirror carp" are a type of "doitsugoi" (Japanese for German carp) that is a genetically derived condition following simple Mendelian inheritance.

Mirror carp generally have a double row of scales down the back, a row of large scales along the lateral line, and maybe a few other scales scattered about the fish, but more than 50% scaleless.

The other types include "Leather" (no or almost no scales at all), and "Armor" (completely covered in very large mirror scales.)*

The pattern can arrive spontaneously from normal scaled carp, but usually is associated with other doitsugoi in the bloodline.

Eg. Mirror x mirror yields 1/4 normal scaled, 1/4 leather carp and 1/2 mirror carp in the offspring.

* This fish is a special case where the armor scales are much smaller than usual, still I believe, an armor scaled carp. Very interesting fish and an excellent catch.

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#10979660 - 07/15/15 08:59 PM Re: Productive evening [Re: Freshwater Phil]
Laker One Offline
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Registered: 07/03/11
Posts: 9162
Loc: San Antonio TX
Nice fish! Good job. woot

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#10979910 - 07/15/15 10:26 PM Re: Productive evening [Re: Freshwater Phil]
Fishinkev Offline
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Registered: 10/28/05
Posts: 2061
Loc: Benbrook,Tx
It's a fully scaled Mirra imho!
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PB Largemouth Bass 12lb 2oz
PB Crappie. 3.01lb
PB Striper 23lb
PB Hybrid 7.02lb
Pb buffalo 49.4lb
Pb carp 26.14
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#10987023 - 07/19/15 02:37 PM Re: Productive evening [Re: Fishbreeder]
Freshwater Phil Offline
Angler

Registered: 01/10/13
Posts: 264
Loc: North of the Border
Very interesting indeed smile

Originally Posted By: Fishbreeder
Originally Posted By: whiterockjesse
I want to call that a mirror instead of a muddler . nice ones


Now I don't know what a "muddler" is, but I've been breeding koi for over 30 years and that fish would be called an "armor scaled" carp by koi enthusiasts. My guess they mean the same thing. I posted this in the past....


"Mirror carp" are a type of "doitsugoi" (Japanese for German carp) that is a genetically derived condition following simple Mendelian inheritance.

Mirror carp generally have a double row of scales down the back, a row of large scales along the lateral line, and maybe a few other scales scattered about the fish, but more than 50% scaleless.

The other types include "Leather" (no or almost no scales at all), and "Armor" (completely covered in very large mirror scales.)*

The pattern can arrive spontaneously from normal scaled carp, but usually is associated with other doitsugoi in the bloodline.

Eg. Mirror x mirror yields 1/4 normal scaled, 1/4 leather carp and 1/2 mirror carp in the offspring.

* This fish is a special case where the armor scales are much smaller than usual, still I believe, an armor scaled carp. Very interesting fish and an excellent catch.
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PB common = 38.5 lbs
PB mirror = 22.5 lbs
PB musky = 52 inches (40 lb fatty)
PB blue cat = 59 lbs
PB lake sturgeon = 57 inches
PB alligator gar = 65 lbs

2015 big ones:


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