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Bass Boat Question BUT Only Bass Fishermen Will Know...??
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I know belongs in another section but bass fishermen are reading this section faithfully. Question: Which of all the bass boats have a gas tank that runs the length of the boat and NOT all in the back end? Makes sense to me as a balance point. Surely if one manufacturer has started doing this, others have or will as well Anyone??? God Bless
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Pretty sure Triton does and the Legend V20 does not sure of the others.
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I have a 30 gallon tank in the rear of my rig. Stratos...the boat sets obviously 'low' in the water when the tank is full...along with the weight of engine/tackle/batteries/etc. Would make a lot more sense, IMO, for the gas tank to 'distribute' the fuel all along the bottom of the boat. Wrong ? Just have been thinking.. 30 gallons is a LOT of weight... God Bless
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30 gallons is a lot of weight. That's why it needs to be in the back so the boat will run right.
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Re: Boats Question BUT Only Bass Fishermen Will Know...??
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My previous Basscat Pantera IV had one that ran side to side under the seat (2004) plus I had the saddle tanks in the rear for added fual, my Puma FTD has split gas tanks in the rear.
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Re: Boats Question BUT Only Bass Fishermen Will Know...??
[Re: Lee in Texas]
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'Balancing' a bass rig seems to me anyhow with these big and heavy motors now especially, seems a really important deal. A fuel tank running from front to back just seems to make sense. If more or most of the manufacturers are not doing this, then there must be reasons as to why not. So, Nitro/Triton and Legend are the only ones now manufacturing that type of a rig? Thanks for the feedback God Bless
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Gasoline weighs 6.3 pounds per gallon. 6.3x 30 gals= 189 lbs
I'd be thrilled if Skeeter put the filler caps on the same side.LOL
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My 08 Triton's gas tank goes from side to side under the seats.
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I think in general you want most of the weight in the rear half of the boat
my tank is under the seats
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I think space under the deck would be limited, then yhere is the issues of baffles to keep it from rushing forwards or backwars which would also affect the trim of the boat. Sure it can be done but could cause more problems. The traditional tank is probably much easier to design and wouldnt need to be reconfigured with different layouts. when taking off or running on plane, the fuel would be forced to the rear anyway
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My 2000 Triton is side to side under the seats. 32 gal and pretty flat. bilge area at back of boat is pretty open.
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I would have to say that one reason manuf. are doing this is also ease of maintenance. When you can replace a gas tank on the back of the boat, beats the heck out of pulling a top cap, or how else a person would access a hull tank.
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I have a 30 gallon tank in the rear of my rig. Stratos...the boat sets obviously 'low' in the water when the tank is full...along with the weight of engine/tackle/batteries/etc. Would make a lot more sense, IMO, for the gas tank to 'distribute' the fuel all along the bottom of the boat. Wrong ? Just have been thinking.. 30 gallons is a LOT of weight... God Bless 30 gal = 185.49lbs I have a 50 gal tank which is 309.15lbs
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I would think the weight transfer sloshing back in forth would cause issues. Even with baffles.
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I ask because when NOT under power, shouldn't your bass rig set pretty level in the water? Mine does not. Rear end sets low in the water even just being a 90HP Johnson. I would have thought should have set much more level on the water... JMO .... God Bless
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No one makes a bassboat with the tanks that run front to back, as some have posted some models do have a more forward tank, under the seats but not running length wise.
This would make the boat too heavy on the front end and not be able to get on pad correctly to perform.
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No one makes a bassboat with the tanks that run front to back, as some have posted some models do have a more forward tank, under the seats but not running length wise.
This would make the boat too heavy on the front end and not be able to get on pad correctly to perform.
I think Triton had one that ran lengthwise in the floor, can.t remember the year and model.
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My Triton TR21 had a 50 gallon tank that was centered under the seats.
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I think Triton started doing that in 2013. It doesn't run the length of the floor. It does run up to my front deck. The sending unit is located under a vent just before you step up to the deck. Triton did that to get some of the weight forward. It seems everybody is getting an extra battery for their 36 volt trolling motors, adding Power Poles or Talons and jack plates. That adds a lot of weight to the back of the boat. My new 19XS has a 10" Atlas jack plate and dual Power Poles and it sits perfectly in the water. I also don't have any problems with "sloshing" or any other negative effects. It gets on plane easily & runs 70+ mph. My older TR186 has the tank located under the seats. It has dual Power Poles and an 8" Atlas jack plate. It also gets on plane easily and runs great but it does sit much lower after I added everything. I put a couple of the inflatable bumper guards between the transom and Jackplate & that helped some. If I added another battery for a 36 volt trolling motor, I think it would sit way too low even with the inflatable bumper guards. Have a Blessed Day, Mike
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Lee, you're obviously not carrying enough tackle/gear, in the forward storage areas! I have a 52 gal. tank, and have to be careful of how many bags of plastic baits, are in the front compartments, or my bow sits too low.
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My Nitro 929 has a 50 or 55 gallon tank at the back of the boat. When full it does seem to be a little heavy in the rear, but at half tank or so, can't really tell.
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How could they make the tank run long ways? It would have to be laying in the floor between the consoles.
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Not sure any boat sits level with a full tank of gas, batteries, motor and gear?
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Another reason to make sure the max horsepower motor is on the boat or something very close.
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My issue is mine sits cockeyed to starboard side. The ole Stratos 1760DV hence my handle with max hp of 115 hp and has 4 stroke 115 merc has 30 gallon tank under the cockpit area. Cranking battery is in back behind driver. Live well on the other side of it. I have full walk thru windshield and 2 trolling motor batteries in center under rod box along with the charger. It sets lower in the back and to the starboard side when it is just me. Between myself and the cranking battery and the deep v really no way to balance it out beside putting water in livewell or having another person on the port side. Trim tabs I guess but not the big of a deal still floats and gets on plane just fine. A little less coverage on sonar especially side scan.
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I have a 30 gallon tank in the rear of my rig. Stratos...the boat sets obviously 'low' in the water when the tank is full...along with the weight of engine/tackle/batteries/etc. Would make a lot more sense, IMO, for the gas tank to 'distribute' the fuel all along the bottom of the boat. Wrong ? Just have been thinking.. 30 gallons is a LOT of weight... God Bless Lee quit putting so much gas!! You have a 90! 10 gallons is two days worth ....plus you have more ish on your boat than the Missouri
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Not sure they make many boats with rear tanks anymore. So the answer is almost all brands have mid boat tanks.
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I ask because when NOT under power, shouldn't your bass rig set pretty level in the water? Mine does not. Rear end sets low in the water even just being a 90HP Johnson. I would have thought should have set much more level on the water... JMO .... God Bless They all sit higher in the front, some more than others. They could be designed to sit level, even with the weight if the manufacturer wanted them to. I figure that there is a reason why they don't. I'm usually pointed into the wind. If not, water will come over the back. The waves have to be pretty high for them to come over the bow. You'd probably see a bunch of swamped boats if they sat more level.
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A tank that ran front to back would be a nightmare to prop. When you try to get out of the whole the gas sloshes to the back where it will kill your hole shot. Coming off of plane the gas would slosh to the front and make the bow dip and could spear a wave if your approaching rough water.
On a smaller boat the best idea is to mount an small tank in the front as a spare and ballast for whole shot.
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Boat designers spend time to tune their boats for the user. Like anyone who tries to make a business go they are looking to combine all the essential elements to provide for the best ride for the money. It may strike you as odd that boats put tanks in the back or under the seats but I'm pretty sure they've tried them out and where they put them is where they were intended to go.
Back 20 years ago they used to build the Javelin 389 which had a tank located at the very rear of the boat. It was faster than most boats with a 150 and took rough water very well. They made some changes years later, renamed it the 19 and put the tanks under the seats. It killed the speed and IMO ruined the boat.
Lee, don't put so much gas in your boat. The boat I owned rated for a 125 had a 18 gallon tank and was more than enough, even when I ran it a long way. My Allison has a 24 gallon tank. Its 20 foot. Its located just in front of the transom.
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Well, guess the answer is (at least for my rig) not so much gas, well not full anyway. But what about when on Possum Kingdom or if I'm lucky, on Fork or Toledo Bend? Need all the gas the tank will hold due to the long lengths of water. Not that many places to re-fuel. But, thanks for all the reply's. Good information. I was sure I had seen recently a boat manufacturer advertising their bass boat with a fuel tank that ran from front (bow) to rear (stern). ??? Maybe I didn't hear it right. God Bless
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if you are on the front deck fishing it will be more level !
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The first time you get in rough water you would see why they need to be how they are these days. When 50 gallons of fuel sloshed forward when you hit a 3' wave and you speared the next one then couldn't get going because you couldn't get the nose up it would be bad. Then, when your cruising about 70 and start a long sweeping turn and you hit some boat wakes that are big enough to move fuel forward you would dig the nose and spin out.
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My 2014 skeeter has 2, 26 gal tanks and I can tell a huge difference when I'm empty on one.
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Lee, you're obviously not carrying enough tackle/gear, in the forward storage areas! I have a 52 gal. tank, and have to be careful of how many bags of plastic baits, are in the front compartments, or my bow sits too low. Think I have too much tackle! Seems every compartment is FULL..... but, it sure seems a great deal of difference when the gas tank is full, and perhaps another angler on board. Man, the rig sets low and to the rear in the water. Just asking..seems many of the newer rigs set much more level and perhaps a little higher in the water. Thanks... God Bless
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If you had a long tank, and the fuel was half full. Wouldn't most of the fuel rush to the back of the boat when you took off, at least until you planed out and reached your desired speed?
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