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#10942948 - 06/26/15 10:55 PM Snaps cutting line...?
DKennimer Offline
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Registered: 03/01/10
Posts: 2851
Loc: Plano/Fork
I recently respooled most of my rods. One of them I use for bladed jigs. On my last two trips I've broken off after the bow and arrow trick didn't work. Got close to the bait and pulled. Both times, the line broke at the knot where the line goes through the snap, and not a very hard pull.... I'm a fanatic about re-tying often, very often. Will even Retie again if my knot is not "neat". I just respooled this reel for tomorrow's trip, but was looking at how sharp the line snap was/is. This is on the Phenix jigs. Anyone else have this issue? I don't use snaps unless it's for this bait (already on). This is fresh 15 lb InvisX, that is stored in my closet. Improved Clinch Knot.

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#10942981 - 06/26/15 11:32 PM Re: Snaps cutting line...? [Re: DKennimer]
senko9S Offline
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is it hitting the blade when you pop it?
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#10942985 - 06/26/15 11:37 PM Re: Snaps cutting line...? [Re: DKennimer]
timwins31 Offline
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Using a friction knot with fluoro is dangerous, that could be causing it. That's a big reason why I quit using it.

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#10943154 - 06/27/15 07:45 AM Re: Snaps cutting line...? [Re: DKennimer]
Ted Martin Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
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Loc: Dallas, TX
Originally Posted By: DKennimer
15 lb InvisX, ....... Improved Clinch Knot.


This is the problem.

Switch to a san diego jam, wet thoroughly and tighten it slowly, carefully, and you will have a h3lluva time breaking it off.

When i first tried fluoro i went with improved clinch not knowing any better, had the same probs, would break on hookset or very slight pressure when snagged. Nothing like that since tying SDJ knot (on a bladed jig i use a double SDJ because the knot profile isnt going to be noticeable to a fish on a moving bait). I have pulled small christmas trees off the bottom on 15lb inviz.

Good luck!

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#10943211 - 06/27/15 08:27 AM Re: Snaps cutting line...? [Re: DKennimer]
fishermanfresh Offline
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thanks for info
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#10943344 - 06/27/15 09:50 AM Re: Snaps cutting line...? [Re: DKennimer]
DKennimer Offline
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Registered: 03/01/10
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Loc: Plano/Fork
I have used this knot for 25+ years (last 5 with Fluoro). It never fails me if tied "neat". I have had numerous occasions where it was hard as heck to break this line with this knot. The only way it could be the knot, in this instance, is the line is getting cut. It is breaking where the line goes through the snap. So I'm getting my knot back if that makes sense. I'm going to try a knot Pack showed me where the line is doubled for this application.

I'm really leaning toward the snaps (on these baits) being too sharp for Fluoro...

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#10944526 - 06/28/15 07:16 AM Re: Snaps cutting line...? [Re: DKennimer]
timwins31 Offline
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You aren't supposed to be using a friction knot with fluoro, plain and simple. Maybe you have been lucky all this time, I dunno. I still use an improved clinch with mono, but never again with fluoro. The line simply can't handle the friction, it gets even thinner and more brittle and will break right at the knot. If I were you I'd at least try to change the knot before I started messing with hardware or buying new jigs.

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