I use 10' ugly stiks. They are $75.00 and are great rods for the money. They say heavy action but got plenty of action. They perform more like a medium heavy rod. They are two piece rods but when I assemble them for the first time, I never take them apart. I use Penn jigmaster reels for the surf and have all mine spooled with 30lb big game. Have caught many of bull reds and a few weeks ago caught a 5ft bull shark on one. To me you want something a little longer than 8' because you'll be able to cast a heck of lot further. 10 ft is shortest I will go for a surf rod. Hope this helps.