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#10843184 - 05/14/15 12:57 AM Choke Canyon catching any of these rains?
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Does anybody know if Choke is getting any of these huge rainfalls?

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#10843380 - 05/14/15 07:50 AM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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The lake level site hasn't updated yet today; but as of yesterday there wasn't any change. It came up 1' a few weeks ago and I'm guessing it might come up another 1' from the rain the past few days.

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#10843381 - 05/14/15 07:50 AM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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#10843670 - 05/14/15 09:30 AM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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Choke in bad shape, lot of my customers live in that area and have told me they have never seen it that low.
Some of those guys have had a lot to say about the health of that lake. Supposedly a seismograph was conducted on it last fall.

Don't know if its true but that rumor has been persistent.

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#10844031 - 05/14/15 11:19 AM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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What kind of problems is it having? Other than lack of rain. What was the reason for the seismograph?

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#10844160 - 05/14/15 12:13 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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I don't get it. Report I checked said the lake level came up 0.07 foot in the last 24 hours, which is about 0.8 inches. The records I checked indicated that the lake itself had over an inch fall on it, plus the Frio and San Miguel drainages got anywhere from 1-4 inches anywhere from just north of the lake to about 20 miles up stream. Where did the water go?

Lets hear about the seismograph secrets!!!

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#10844231 - 05/14/15 12:36 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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Guys, be patient! The headwaters of the Frio start all the way miles upstream in the hills above Uvalde and Garner Park area. If there was a lot of rain up there which it looked like it was, that water can take anywhere from five to seven days or so to reach the lake.
Bad news is I didn't hear of any flash flooding up in that region so it may not rise but a couple of feet.
Keep watch on the daily reports and listen for any reports of flooding on the Frio.
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#10844270 - 05/14/15 12:54 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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We will most likely get 1-3 feet out of this last round of rain. The upper watershed still hasn't seen the rain we need for anything more significant, just like Jimbo said.

As far as the seismograph, you can bet that was related to exploration related to the Eagle Ford, which Choke sits right square in the middle of. No rain in the watershed for years and if you think the lake levels were due to seismographs, you need a tin foil hat.

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#10844285 - 05/14/15 12:57 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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I just want to know what rumor has the seismographs did..

I wonder if maybe any water has been pumped out of the lake/river for drilling/fracking? Illegal sure, but im sure in bfe middle of nowhere nobody knows and therefore cares.

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#10844345 - 05/14/15 01:28 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: redchevy]
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Doubt it. I'm pretty sure the lakes is low from 10 years of drought.

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#10844707 - 05/14/15 03:49 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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A couple guys told me they were fishing at Choke and there were round floats about 36" diameter across the lake with a module in each float and they were stretched out like a chain. An individual tending to them told the men it was a seismograph and that is what was told to me from one of the men.
Thru the past 3 years there have been rumors about a well was fracked that runs underneath the lake and another about water wells being drilled close to it and the water being sold for frack jobs.
So I dont know and what is true and what aint. I do know that Mathis Lake is staying a lot fuller now than it used to be and that is one reason Choke is down. And of course the drought.

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#10844755 - 05/14/15 04:16 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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Good lord the rumors run rampant with stupidity! The lake was graphed yes. It was to see how much oil was under the lake.... And the answer is.... A bunch! Previous owner has mineral rights still, not the state.


The lake was down 26' several years ago (before fracking!) and the lake filled up due to a massive flood east of Uvalde. Small recharge zone and drought has caused the low water.



A different river fills up Mathis and it filled a few months ago due to another flood. Different rivers fill each lake!


Edited by grout-scout (05/14/15 04:18 PM)

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#10844805 - 05/14/15 04:40 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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Grout pretty much hit it on the head, but yeah, Lake CC being up has absolutely zero to do with the Choke Canyon water level. In fact, the City of CC has repeatedly stated that they prefer to keep the water in Choke Canyon because it is deeper, and therefore, they lose less of it to evaporation.

When a lake gets nearly zero rain in its watershed for 10 years, it goes down drastically. Nothing to do with fracking, or illegal stealing of water, or aliens from Mars.

This is like the guy one time when the fishing started to go South who swore up and down it was due to the bass being scared of the shotgun blasts from duck hunters, not the tournies, overfishing, lack of grass, etc etc.

Good Lord, people.

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#10844890 - 05/14/15 05:22 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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I think they're keeping choke low so they can finish the bridge at Tawakoni.
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#10844896 - 05/14/15 05:26 PM Re: Choke Canyon catching any of these rains? [Re: Big Lunker]
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Grout scout before you start slamming me about my post read it closer. No where in my post did I say Choke Canyon water was used to refill Mathis Lake. Never mentioned a river! Read this please : [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_Canyon_Reservoir]
Corpus pulls water out of Choke as well as Mathis for drinking water. Two years ago Mathis was a swamp and now the water level has been higher there for a year. My intention was to suggest that Corpus could be using more of Choke Canyon water than Mathis Lake water.
There are already old oil and gas wells in Choke Canyon before it was filled, as to the river it is Frio and the creek is San Miguel. I go by it twice a week.



Edited by Blue dot (05/14/15 05:28 PM)

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