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#10835546 - 05/11/15 01:14 PM Dam breach at Lake Athens?
Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer Offline
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Registered: 02/21/06
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Loc: Lake Fork, Texas
Anyone know anything about this?
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#10835548 - 05/11/15 01:14 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Razorback Offline
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Registered: 08/31/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Tyler, TX, USA

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#10835581 - 05/11/15 01:22 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
AgSellers04 Offline
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Registered: 04/15/08
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Loc: Burleson, Texas
These storms have wreaked havoc. Hope this doesn't worsen.
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#10835622 - 05/11/15 01:34 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Gary R Offline
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Registered: 02/21/08
Posts: 722
Loc: Arlington, TX
James,
The breach is actually on my club lake, Athens Fish and Game Club. Our lake feeds directly into Lake Athens.
So to be clear for everyone, it is the dam of Athens Fish & Game that is in trouble, NOT the Lake Athens dam. The water went over our dam last night, which if you are familiar with the area, that road holding our dam is Hwy 317. The problem is that the outflow of water washed out parts of 317. So the breach of the dam itself is what we are questioning. We just had an engineer out to the club, and he did some tests. He said a few things: 1. If it rains hard again tonight, we are screwed....and we may lose the dam. 2. Right now, at this minute, our AF&G lake is dropping 6" per hour. Where does the water flow out to, from our overflow? Directly into Lake Athens. We are praying there are no big storms tonight.
I had Jason Hoffman out with me a week ago, fishing AF&G. We have some monster fish in there. It would be a shame if we lost it.
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#10835677 - 05/11/15 01:53 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
catslayer Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
Posts: 3574
Loc: Straight outa Johnson county.....
...YES, it would be a shame that all yalls money and hard work would be lost...

If it did god forbid happen... might make a run out to lake Athens lol


Edited by catslayer (05/11/15 01:54 PM)
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#10835729 - 05/11/15 02:13 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Chris_K Offline
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Registered: 01/14/15
Posts: 1182
Loc: TX
FYI ramps on Athens are closed! I've seen several boats heading that way. No fishing for now! fish

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#10835774 - 05/11/15 02:24 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Austin710 Offline
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Registered: 04/28/14
Posts: 90
Loc: Dallas, Texas

Pretty full lol

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#10835801 - 05/11/15 02:37 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Slade Offline
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Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 1415
Loc: Irving, TX
This is an unbelievable turn of events. I hope it doesn't get worse, I can't believe the lakes where all so low just a few months ago. Crazy
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#10835825 - 05/11/15 02:45 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
OzzieFish Offline
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Registered: 02/24/03
Posts: 2971
Loc: Carrollton, TX USA
Is this by “Donna’s Delectable Cakes”


Edited by OzzieFish (05/11/15 02:46 PM)

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#10835857 - 05/11/15 02:55 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Brad R Offline
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Registered: 03/09/15
Posts: 1549
Loc: Texas
AF&G is 463' to Lake Athens' 440' at full pools, so I suppose the engineers and others will determine fairly quickly how much water can escape if the dam gives away to its lowest possible point, then the effects on the upper lake losing the water . . . and the effects on the lower lake receiving the water.

Lake Athens is reported to be at 441.90' today and that jibes with the photo showing the boat ramp and its current state.

I'm not sure how deep AF&G is, what water would remain in it with a total breach of its dam.

Some interesting math here: 1 acre-foot of water (an acre covered by 1 foot of water) is slightly less than 326,000 gallons of water. That'll fill a lot of aquariums.

Will they try to bleed off AF&G to take pressure off the dam and any more rain water and watershed?

Will Lake Athens coordinate activities by releasing water to make room?

Down stream of Lake Athens, and the effects?

Many novels have less interesting twists and turns (and politics) than this.

Brad

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#10836041 - 05/11/15 03:43 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Chelsea FC Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 418
Loc: Grapevine
I was on AF&G this weekend. Deepest water I saw was about 18 ft near the dam. Most of the lake is 12ft

Did those 2 big cedar tree brushpiles float into spillway and block it up ?

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#10836044 - 05/11/15 03:45 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
jnogreen Offline
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Registered: 04/16/12
Posts: 123
Loc: Boerne, Texas
Dam
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#10836077 - 05/11/15 03:54 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
catslayer Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
Posts: 3574
Loc: Straight outa Johnson county.....
tuned into updates...
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#10836214 - 05/11/15 04:43 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: catslayer]
Gary R Offline
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Registered: 02/21/08
Posts: 722
Loc: Arlington, TX
The problem at AF&G Club is so much rain entered the lake at once, that it could not flow out of our overflow quick enough. So it crossed Hwy 317, which IS our dam. This huge surge of water eroded out part of the highway, and a small leak/breach developed. Our overflow, right at the overpass on 317, where you cross AF&G, feeds directly into Lake Athens. Right now the overflow is doing all it can. The outlet under the bridge is only so big and can only handle so much outflow. The engineers tell us it is moving 6" of water per hour....6" per hour AF&G is dropping, and feeding into Athens. That tells you the huge flood of water in AF&G. And the dam is not designed, nor is it used to support this much water pressure / volume. Deepest part of AF&G is about 21' in spots, by the dam. And yes, the average depth of the other water is about 10-12'. For anyone that has ever gone down Hwy 317 going to Lake Athens, you've crossed AF&G Club. Look at this photo. What you see in the road, is actually where the highway (which is our dam) is actually GONE. This is the fear. There's a voluntary evacuation in place for anyone below this area and downstream to Lake Athens.
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#10836248 - 05/11/15 04:55 PM Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens? [Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
Sparlin Offline
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Registered: 07/15/13
Posts: 396
Loc: The Colony, Texas
Is the AF&G club also known as Jones lake on Google Earth? Never mind...found it a little to the West.


Edited by Sparlin (05/11/15 04:58 PM)
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