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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 12:35 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I can cast a c rig a mile too, but when I do, I spend about 5 minutes per cast digging out back lashes. Lol.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 12:56 PM
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Tex20
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I agree with Ken about checking your reel for the right amount of line. I also agree with the guy who talked about using a reel with a good line capacity for a technique like a c-rig. I like to use a Calcutta for my rigging. It is bulkier than my low profile reels, but it has what you need for a good rig reel.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 01:18 PM
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Slade
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My reels are full of line, the 4 reels I have been tinkering with, and they are all fairly new, 2 have 20# Floro and 2 of them have braid.
1. Diawa Tatulla - on 7' MH GL2 - I set this one up as a C-rig setup last year but I have not used it very much, the reel is in great shape - 30# braid
2. Diawa Zillion - on 7' NRX GLX - 20 # Floro - Used mainly for Football Head Jigs and T-Rigs on deep structure
3. Shimano Chronarch (white one) - on 7'2" Megabass Perfect Pitch - 50# braid, used mainly for flipping jigs and frogs
4. Abu Revo STX - on 7' Power Tackle Paragon MH - 17# Floro, used mainly for chatterbaits, traps, square bills, T-rigs
I can launch other baits on all of these set ups but I do struggle with a C-rig, especially the longer leaders and big worms. I think the issue is the type of casts, and I need to focus on the weight not the bait, I can throw it alright but not like I want.
I tried putting another swivel on thinking maybe the weight was sliding up and down the main line too much on the cast, but that didn't help.
After all of the feedback and doing some research it sounds like a longer rod will help. I want to be able to throw across a point or a hump and try and work the bait through the entire area, I have had success throwing football head jigs and fishing them like that, but I think a big worm on a C rig will be better in some cases and certain times of year. I will keep researching and get a dedicated set up eventually. Thanks for all of the help guys.
PB 10.58 Joe Pool
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 01:25 PM
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Ken A.
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Doesn't sound like your equipment is an issue. All good stuff. I do notice a big difference in how far I can cast a C-rig with a 1 oz weight versus a 3/4 oz. Plus, the 3/4 tends to slide up the line as I cast where the 1 oz doesn't.
I rarely ever use a weight less than 1 oz. One of the things that makes the C-rig effective is the fact that the heavier weight stirs up silt as you drag it. I have found that I get more bites using the 1 oz weight than a smaller one even in shallow water.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 01:29 PM
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Slade
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Yea, I think I will throw 1 oz weights more moving forward, when dragging a jig or a big worm I like the heavier weights. Gives me more distance, stirs up more on the bottom and gets to the bottom faster. So it makes sense that a 1 oz weight on a C rig will be best
PB 10.58 Joe Pool
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 02:41 PM
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Rob Lay
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I cast my c-rig further than anything else I think.
Dobyns 804 c-rig rod. 1 or 1 1/4 oz weight.
I think they key to distance is feel the weight, it is a sweeping cast feel that weight coming around and then let it go. I also find with the heavy weight and line it makes the reel not very backlash sensitive, so you can really back off the brakes.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Ken A.]
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05/04/15 10:34 PM
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Chato
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Doesn't sound like your equipment is an issue. All good stuff. I do notice a big difference in how far I can cast a C-rig with a 1 oz weight versus a 3/4 oz. Plus, the 3/4 tends to slide up the line as I cast where the 1 oz doesn't.
I rarely ever use a weight less than 1 oz. One of the things that makes the C-rig effective is the fact that the heavier weight stirs up silt as you drag it. I have found that I get more bites using the 1 oz weight than a smaller one even in shallow water.
I agree with Ken, 1oz weight is the way to go. Gotta keep it on the bottom.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/04/15 10:42 PM
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Thad Rains
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Dobyns has a Carolina Rig Rod that is 804 and casts like a dream, even far off. Try that rod with a high speed high capacity spool and you should be fine. I use 7'6" and 8' rods for almost everything, ESP. CBs. Hope this helps.
Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.
Thad Rains
Last edited by Thad Rains; 05/04/15 10:46 PM.
Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.
Thad Rains
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: wetduck]
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05/04/15 10:47 PM
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MagFluker
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Think lob shot when throwing a crig. Look up pendulum casting I bet you are trying to cast it like a trig.
Cast almost underhand, if your weight is sliding up the line that will shorten your distance, barely thumb the line at the start of the cast to put the weight back toward the bait unless you peg it. I use a 7'6" rod with a very fast tip and use a 1/4 ounce weight most of the time and I can launch it.
Kyle in NC
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/05/15 12:05 AM
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Bill Durham
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I use an Original Falcon 7' medium heavy, 30lb Stren Super Braid, 15lb flouro leader, 1oz weight.. Revo SX and I can cast it a mile. I like to use the Grande Bass rattlesnake baits and they will fly. I've never tried to fish a 12" worm on a C-rig.. Do they float? Not sure if a bait that big would cause enough wind drag vs the 1oz sinker to make that much difference or not.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: wagonwheel]
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05/05/15 12:30 AM
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Fish Art Texas
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for water less than10 ft i throw a5/16 tungston weight ,glass bead, swivel with a 15 inch leader and 3/0 hook,and baby ring fry on 12 pound big game.caught lots of 5-7poundwes this spring, you really dont need braid!ican easily throw this rig 40-50 yards with an all star 6.5 wr 1 rod- most fish hit really close to the boat anyway! for deeper applications just switch to a 3/4 ounce sinker and 18 to 24 inch leader.
Joe Spurgin
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/05/15 02:11 AM
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Phoenix_Ed
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I'm throwing a 1 oz tungsten weight and whatever I want on 40lb Power Pro with a 15 lb Big Game leader and have been happy with this for a while. I can feel everything I drag over, and even light bites I can smoke their butt on it.
Someone commented about using mono for a mainline, man I did that for a while and when I went to braid my hook up ratio went way up. Plus I don't loose too much tungsten with a 50 lb swivel, the Big Game gives up first.
I use a 7' Heavy Kistler Mag, Curado 200e7, and love it.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/05/15 03:00 AM
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Slade
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The big worms make it tougher. I have been messing around a little this evening and I have been able to throw it about 35-40 yards. Focusing on the weight not the bait and lobbing it has helped. When I put a smaller worm on and leave everything else the same I can get about another 10 yards out of it.
I still think a longer Rod, 7'-6" that is designed to cast C Rigs will help add distance even with a 12" worm.
PB 10.58 Joe Pool
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/05/15 01:24 PM
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ezbassin
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This is what I use.
Dobyns 784 Extreme Lews Super Duty 20# McCoys Mean green or 20# Invizx depending on if you want to use a co-polymer or fluorocarbon line. 1 oz lead weight, glass bead and swivel. Leader length, I reel the weight up to the tip of the rod and have the bait hang somewhere between the last two guides.
I had my 784 before they came out with the 804 and some like the 804 better, although an 8ft rod goes end to end on my front deck so the 784 is just right for me.
Last edited by ezbassin; 05/05/15 01:26 PM.
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Re: C-rig - best way to get some distance?
[Re: Slade]
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05/05/15 01:42 PM
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FMJshooter
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All in the back cast, any slack/bow in the line will kersplode a reel once the weight yanks that slack out. Load that sucker up then lob it.
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