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#10780723 - 04/20/15 07:36 AM do hard baits really matter now a days?
buton Offline
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Registered: 05/28/10
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Loc: Cypress,Tx
After having many hard baits, rattle traps, square bills i wonder if they are really needed. Soft plastic baits have evolved, i see many post here where people use soft plastic swim baits more and more they even make a popper plastic bait. Plastics technology has evolved so i wonder if hard baits really matter now a days and if a plastic tackle arsenal will get better results.
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#10780822 - 04/20/15 08:19 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
Outdoordude Offline
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Registered: 04/20/09
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Yes they are still relevant because soft plastics can't rattle like hard plastics do, and the soft plastics can't deflect off of cover or float away from snags like hard plastic crankbaits can.

You can still go catch fish consistently without any type of hard plastic, but they're still a highly productive option in certain situations and they don't get torn up as quickly as soft plastics.

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#10780827 - 04/20/15 08:21 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
SpiderJig Offline
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Yes. I don't know what I would do without deep diving crankbaits during the winter months
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#10780870 - 04/20/15 08:34 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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#10780896 - 04/20/15 08:44 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
collincountytx Offline
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The specific way harder materials move/wobble and reflect light can't be replicated by soft plastics. Don't know what I'd do without my favorite spoons.
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#10780911 - 04/20/15 08:50 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
Rudy Lackey Offline
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Vibration,water movement.
Give me a Crank that is made to dive 20+ ft.I'll show you what it can do in 8ft
or less !
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#10780976 - 04/20/15 09:13 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
reeltexan Offline
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Are you kidding?
Crankbaits, stickbaits, spinnerbaits, spoons, topwaters?

Don't leave home without 'em.
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#10781007 - 04/20/15 09:26 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
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Do whuuut?
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#10781082 - 04/20/15 09:56 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
96speed Offline
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I can c-rig in 1'-40'. No need for hard baits.
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#10781126 - 04/20/15 10:15 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
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There is a reason pros don't use plastics in 40 deg. water, no I couldn't go with out them and use them year round won more tournaments on hard baits then plastics
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#10781197 - 04/20/15 10:33 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
buton Offline
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good points all around...

so what about a plastic bait that will rattle and make noise? will that be a game changer on the market?

one bad thing about plastic is that they may not last for ever right?
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#10781215 - 04/20/15 10:41 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
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You can buy glass, plastic, metal and brass rattles to insert into your worm. But to answer your question, NEVER. Give me a school of big largemouths on deep, offshore structure. You throw whatever plastic you'd like. I'll throw a deep diving crankbait, fire them up and catch the entire school before you have your first bite. A big crankbait will catch more and larger bass than just about anything offshore. Ask Keith Combs.
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#10781262 - 04/20/15 10:53 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
Kevin Bryant Offline
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I'll take all of the hardbaits that you don't want anymore. You're right...you don't need them...
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#10781288 - 04/20/15 11:00 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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How many tournaments has KVD won on a hard bait? Vs. soft plastic. If anything I seriously might take hard baits over and soft bait

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#10781441 - 04/20/15 11:47 AM Re: do hard baits really matter now a days? [Re: buton]
EastTexasBassin Offline
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Registered: 07/15/09
Posts: 960
Loc: Lake Ray Hubbard
This might be the silliest question I've seen here

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