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#10764245 - 04/13/15 12:28 PM Proper distance from Guides when trolling.
steven1968 Offline
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So I'm genuinely curious as to what the expectation is. Fish go where they go and we follow, or try to. I try to stay at least 50yds. away as I go by and I don't circle around them. I try not to troll between them if a group are anchored in a long line, though sometimes water depth doesn't give you a choice. I go by one and he's looking over towards me. I wave and see him shake his head. Not close enough to see his facial expression, but I assume he's not happy with my pass. I've been trolling up and down that bank for hours before he was even there. Later in the day, he goes 1/4 mile off his course to buzz by me at 50' doing 30 MPH when I'm anchored and pitching flukes. He didn't even look over and I doubt his paying customers were aware of what he was doing. Now, at 50yds and 2.5 mph, I'm not affecting his fishing one bit. I'm also not honing in on some secret spot, as we're in a frequently fished area. I have tens of thousands of dollars invested in my rig, and it takes me 2 hours to get to the lake. I have as much right to fish respectfully as he does. This is not an indictment on all guides at all, but I figure I'd see what the expectation is, and if it's reasonable or not.
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#10764695 - 04/13/15 02:09 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
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It really does not bother me to much if someone slows trolls by. I fish of a lot points.
It does bother me when boaters go by me on plane between my boat and the bank.
Bass boats are the worst about cutting across a point I am fishing at speed.
We all have the right to be there.....I try to play nice with most everyone.....
If your a guide and really on fish they normally come back if scared away.
If not I just go find more!
There is no excuse for being rude. Guides should be the most polite of anyone on the lake.
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#10764732 - 04/13/15 02:20 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
Ray Hubbard Guide- J.V. Offline


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If you are there trolling , minding your own business first .. Then nobody should get mad if they anchor in your troll line .. And you troll on by smile the only thing that bothers me sometimes and it's not because I am a guide .. If I am at a spot catching fish stationary .. Then someone comes out of know where and starts trolling around me .. Lol .. It has nothing to do with the method or that I am a guide .. I just look at it as common courtesy smile if somebody is trolling in a spot .. I would never stop the boat and get stationary in their path .. They where there first .. And if I fished in the area I dang sure wouldn't get mad when someone trolls close cause he was Doing that before I got there smile we all have the right to be on the water .. I sometimes troll if need to ..


Edited by Ray Hubbard Guide- J.V. (04/13/15 02:22 PM)

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#10764773 - 04/13/15 02:32 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
benp Offline
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Trolling posts can get out of hand here lol...

I think one of the issues with trolling and I assume it was on Texoma is that there are long lanes for trolling and timing might not be in your favor. you could troll past all the islands and call that a lane so to speak and you could make a run one way and come back to find a boat anchored in your path that never even saw you in the first place. at that point it looks like you came up on them when it was actually the opposite. If every one is just respectful it is easy to get along. Guide or not we all know what would make us mad, so just try not to do it to others is all.


Edited by benp (04/13/15 02:33 PM)
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#10764791 - 04/13/15 02:36 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
mperl Offline
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Randy and Steven are both spot on. Some guides are sweet as can be, some are not. Some fishermen are courteous, some are not. NOBODY owns the spot they are fishing from. That's life.

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#10764826 - 04/13/15 02:43 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: benp]
Ray Hubbard Guide- J.V. Offline


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Originally Posted By: benp
Trolling posts can get out of hand here lol...

I think one of the issues with trolling and I assume it was on Texoma is that there are long lanes for trolling and timing might not be in your favor. you could troll past all the islands and call that a lane so to speak and you could make a run one way and come back to find a boat anchored in your path that never even saw you in the first place. at that point it looks like you came up on them when it was actually the opposite. If every one is just respectful it is easy to get along. Guide or not we all know what would make us mad, so just try not to do it to others is all.


Well .. If you troll 3 miles and turn around and 2 miles down someone anchored .. Lol .. If you get mad about that then that's the trollers fault smile just be respectful is my way of doing things smile

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#10764881 - 04/13/15 03:00 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
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50 yds seems fair. If a lure chunker or minnow dunker breaks in on a troller, not cool. If birds are working and 3-5 lure chunkers are working that school, trollers break in....Not cool. Mostly common sense?
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#10764912 - 04/13/15 03:12 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
Anchorman Offline
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Sounds to me like all the responses are common sense and reasonable. Its a big lake and there is always room. No need to crowd. They claim running a big motor over feeding fish will lock them up....who knows.

My opinion is pretty consistent with all the responses. It depends on the situation. But generally I'd say 50 yards is a little close.
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#10764950 - 04/13/15 03:26 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
sandjohnny Offline
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My pet peve is I find fish and get on top of them and jig straight up and down. So many trollers can't stand it and troll around you in circles as close as 25 ft.You try to tell them how you are catching them but they refuse to fish any way except trolling. I just leave and go find more fish. I cannot get in a conforation with customers in the boat and many times kids. I try to be patience with trollers because I understand that is the only way most of them can find fish. It would be so easy if people would just use some common sense.
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#10765007 - 04/13/15 03:42 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
Ruff n Redi Offline
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Registered: 04/03/10
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Loc: Aledo, TX
I agree if you are trolling a 1-3 mile line then you can't expect people to know where you will be next. As I have already posted, I was on a bank trolling 100 yd strip, a guide in a wrapped boat watched us pull a fish and then set up when I started moving right where we caught the fish. He had 8 customers throwing sassys as far as they could. I went around him first time and we had words. Second time I came within 50' of him, so and he had his customers throw all their baits over my lines. Not a good idea, I was trolling with braid, he had mono on. I never troll around someone that is stationary, jigging, fishing with live bait, or throwing. I fish all those ways too. I had 2 women on my boat and wind was blowing, so I trolled. But this guy was wrong. (Easter Weekend)

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#10765127 - 04/13/15 04:25 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
steven1968 Offline
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Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 131
Loc: Burleson, Tx
Thanks all. I was trolling a long line around a point, so I had no issue with several boats that ended up on the line I was trolling. I just roll on by far enough not to interfere. Boats troll by one another within 30' of each other and still catch fish, so I don't know what the issue was. Had a guide earlier in the day cut between me and the shore running hard. I was probably 125 yds. off the bank. I still caught fish. Though the waders probably didn't appreciate the wake. smile Unless the fish are surfaced and you run through them, I'm not sure boat traffic has a lot of impact. All my fish were caught in the bottom 5' of water, except for a few Whites. I may be wrong there, but that's been my limited experience.
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#10765138 - 04/13/15 04:30 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
psycho0819 Offline
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Ah, the obligatory spring trolling thread. And I see at least one person has already resorted to condescension. A trolling thread promises to never disappoint.
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#10765144 - 04/13/15 04:33 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: sandjohnny]
steven1968 Offline
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Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 131
Loc: Burleson, Tx
Originally Posted By: sandjohnny
My pet peve is I find fish and get on top of them and jig straight up and down. So many trollers can't stand it and troll around you in circles as close as 25 ft.You try to tell them how you are catching them but they refuse to fish any way except trolling. I just leave and go find more fish. I cannot get in a conforation with customers in the boat and many times kids. I try to be patience with trollers because I understand that is the only way most of them can find fish. It would be so easy if people would just use some common sense.
Johnny


That I just don't understand. Trolling is a great way to locate fish, or catch them when they are scattered about and not schooling. Especially when you can only get to a lake a couple times a year. But there's not much more fun then jigging or casting a school. Getting lures to 25+ feet when trolling requires methods that do take away some of the fun of the fight.
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#10765146 - 04/13/15 04:34 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: steven1968]
me and the boys Offline
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Registered: 01/08/10
Posts: 1758
Loc: Joshua TX
One paticular guide on rc with a big guaranteed on the side got me the same way.
Guess he figuerred it was his secret super spot.

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#10765170 - 04/13/15 04:43 PM Re: Proper distance from Guides when trolling. [Re: psycho0819]
steven1968 Offline
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Loc: Burleson, Tx
Originally Posted By: psycho0819
Ah, the obligatory spring trolling thread. And I see at least one person has already resorted to condescension. A trolling thread promises to never disappoint.



Hmm. A troll-ing post in a trolling thread. smile Threads not a rant. Just want to know what the local expectation is. I grew up trolling the Chesapeake bay for stripers and bluefish. You try to stay out of the headboats chum line. 50yds seems plenty wide to me, but I don't know if locally that's normal or not.
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