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wire leader
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04/10/15 11:52 PM
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bigdtbone
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Whats the easiest to use wire leader for kings or what ever. I don't want to buy crimpers so I need some wire a little softer so I can twist it . I only get to go near shore once a year so I don't want to invest in a bunch of crimps and stuff .
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Re: wire leader
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04/10/15 11:59 PM
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sps468
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Use channel lock pliers you dont need to expensive crimp set. Just buy to correct sleeves that you need for the diameter of the wiring that you will be using.
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 12:10 AM
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bigdtbone
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That's a good idea but I've seen some wire (on fishing shows) that could be twisted by hand. No sleeves necessary . If I do the sleeves do I use double or single ?
Last edited by bigdtbone; 04/11/15 12:19 AM.
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 12:23 AM
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sps468
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What pound test is the wire they were using? I always use double.
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 12:36 AM
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bigdtbone
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40 or 50 lb . What would you use on kings 10 0r 12 miles out ?
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 01:03 AM
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sps468
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Usually 50 lb with a C hook with 6 ounce weight.
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 05:32 AM
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Day0ne
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Use channel lock pliers you dont need to expensive crimp set. Just buy to correct sleeves that you need for the diameter of the wiring that you will be using. Channel locks won't cut it when used for crimping sleeves, and the proper crimpers aren't that expensive. With sleeves, only use a cup to cup type crimper. Don't use a point to cup style crimper or pliers. Use sleeves made from a material that won't react to the stainless leader. For more info, see: http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html If you don't want to use sleeves, use single strand wire and twist it properly. There are also some types of multi strand wire that can be tied, such as tyger wire.
Last edited by Day0ne; 04/11/15 08:37 PM.
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 01:36 PM
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lite-liner
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if solid wire is what you want, Malin 60# is fine, and pretty cheap @ basspro *Learn the haywire twist, if you dont already* or, you can find knottable wire as well. http://www.basspro.com/TyGer-Leader/product/36747/ a bag of .040 double-barrel alum crimps & a decent crimper gonna set you back around $40, if you get down & hunt the deals. wothwhile, IMO hope this helps...
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Re: wire leader
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04/11/15 11:41 PM
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chuck_w
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Or you could just buy some pre made kingfish leaders? No extra tools for those.
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Re: wire leader
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04/12/15 05:34 PM
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if solid wire is what you want, Malin 60# is fine, and pretty cheap @ basspro *Learn the haywire twist, if you dont already* +1 It takes some practice, but once you learn to 'tie' a haywire twist, it's easy to prepare good, simple, no-fail wire leaders.
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Re: wire leader
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04/12/15 06:03 PM
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Lmgreeri
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MALIN, MALIN,, MALIN!!!!! Coffee color. Also use dark or coffee colored swivels (chrome swivels invite bites at the knot from spanish macks and your whole rig is gone). Best wire leader out there that I have found bar none. Learn to tie a proper haywire and you are good to go (lots of good instructional vids online). When we fished for kings I used mainly 90 lb. The 70-90 lb range is the easiest to learn to tie with. And NEVER, NEVER, NEVER waste your money on store bought kingfish rigs. I have seen them fail way too many times. They use cheap wire and hooks. If you catch that monster of a lifetime you are likely to lose it on store bought junk.
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Re: wire leader
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04/14/15 02:59 AM
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sps468
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I had sharks chew thru the cable before a sleeve messed up from using channal locks. Even had the cable break a foot from the sleeve that was installed with channel locks. If you use them do this patteren on one side ///// the oppisite direction on the other side.
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Re: wire leader
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04/14/15 09:54 AM
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Chase Curtis
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if solid wire is what you want, Malin 60# is fine, and pretty cheap @ basspro *Learn the haywire twist, if you dont already* +1 It takes some practice, but once you learn to 'tie' a haywire twist, it's easy to prepare good, simple, no-fail wire leaders.
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