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 Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: THX1138]
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03/18/15 10:34 PM
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Am I the only one who uses the term "bream"?
 To the Texas Fishing Forum. Glad to have you on board.  Side Note: I usually call em "Sunnies"!
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/18/15 11:14 PM
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And yes this is the greatest group on any forum. Not only are they extremely knowledgeable, but better yet, there ain't an elitist in the bunch.
Just by looking through some of these threads I learned a few things, that, yes I'll say it....even I did not know. I am almost 60 year old fisheries biologist with a lot of mileage. Sometimes I can't figure out if I didn't know something or just forgot... I've always loved sunfish, especially the more obscure species. I do a lot of electrofishing in bass lakes, and most are really boring....bass, bluegill, shad, maybe some tilapia. Its fun the first time, but real quick its just another job. When we get to do an oxbow, creek or river and catch all manner of species, its tons of more fun. This groups enthusiasm for multiple species, rather than just one species and all that matters is size (ie. bass) is much more attractive to me in my "off time." I should drop by more regular.... Anybody ever catch a flier ( Centrarchus macropterus)? [/quote] I wish I knew where to catch flier! Got in places you know of?
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/19/15 04:30 AM
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The first time I caught a flier was in EasTex. They disn't seem to school and I may have caught a handful over three summers of fishing pretty regularly. Last time I caught some was in an oxbow in West TN. I caught more of them but I think that was because they were cut off from the main water body. They are a sunfish that don't cooperate in my limited experience. P.S. My family called them "perch" all my life cause that's what small fish were called. Whether they were freshwater or saltwater. I called them "bream" from a young age because that's what a den leader in my Cub Scout days called them. Go figure! 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/19/15 04:36 AM
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Not a perch I caught a couple of these fish today. Can you name this one? 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/19/15 04:40 AM
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Am I the only one who uses the term "bream"?
Yes, I call them Bream as well, just not on the forum. By the way, every one of these fish were caught on a fly called the "Briminator"
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/19/15 01:24 PM
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Not a perch I caught a couple of these fish today. Can you name this one? Looks like a Golden Shiner to me.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/20/15 01:23 AM
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Not a perch I caught a couple of these fish today. Can you name this one? Looks like a Golden Shiner to me. +1
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/20/15 12:54 PM
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The first time I caught a flier was in EasTex. They disn't seem to school and I may have caught a handful over three summers of fishing pretty regularly. Last time I caught some was in an oxbow in West TN. I caught more of them but I think that was because they were cut off from the main water body. They are a sunfish that don't cooperate in my limited experience. P.S. My family called them "perch" all my life cause that's what small fish were called. Whether they were freshwater or saltwater. I called them "bream" from a young age because that's what a den leader in my Cub Scout days called them. Go figure! Yall are friggin' awesome! I shoulda came by here a long time ago. That is the VERY FIRST story about catching a flier I ever heard. I threw it in at the last in my comment. That big gold colored fish above is as mentioned earlier, a golden shiner. They get pretty big and will bite a small piece of worm or other bait fairly readily. Working on a fish hatchery in East Texas (long gone was called "D&B Fish Farm") I heard some crazy names for different kinds of fish. some of the sunfish were called... Warmouth- stumpknocker Red ear- cherry gill, shellcracker Green sunfish- slick, slick perch, rice field slick Bluegill- bream, perch Hybrid sunfish(usually Bluegill male x Green female and hatchery bought)- Georgia Giant, high-bird sunfish, hyberd, hi-bred some of the others Blue catfish- guvment, fulton, high-fin, blue, bluecat Bullhead catfish- mudcat, pollywog, mudpolly, chou-pic Channel catfish- willow cat, chughead Crappie- white perch, sac-au-lait, slab Largemouth bass- black bass, green trout Bowfin- grinnel, cypress trout a buncha others...
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/20/15 03:40 PM
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The first time I caught a flier was in EasTex. They disn't seem to school and I may have caught a handful over three summers of fishing pretty regularly. Last time I caught some was in an oxbow in West TN. I caught more of them but I think that was because they were cut off from the main water body. They are a sunfish that don't cooperate in my limited experience. P.S. My family called them "perch" all my life cause that's what small fish were called. Whether they were freshwater or saltwater. I called them "bream" from a young age because that's what a den leader in my Cub Scout days called them. Go figure! Jagg, you are one of the very few people I've seen on here who have reported catching a flier. Few of us even know what one is. I've never seen one in person that i know of. The only other person I can think of was a guy who went by Starless Dragon who later changed to just Starless. He hasn't posted in a good while and I know he had some health problems. My memory is not very good these days, and I'm not certain if he caught it or just commented on the post. Heck maybe it was your flier and he just responded about it. Anyway, Justin was a very cool guy and there is a thread on here somewhere way back that he posted to that had a picture of a flier that was caught somewhere in a little bog pond over in east texas. Was that your Flier? Another Flier question for anyone who knows - someone said something once about them not being in the same group as the rest of our typical sunfish - bluegill, red ear, long ear, etc. I'm thinking maybe cichlid family or something like that. Any info about who fliers are related to? I found this at TPWD that has some flier info. TPWD-Flier Here's some pics i snagged off the net   I don't know, they look like perch to me.  
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/21/15 01:52 PM
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The first time I caught a flier was in EasTex. They disn't seem to school and I may have caught a handful over three summers of fishing pretty regularly. Last time I caught some was in an oxbow in West TN. I caught more of them but I think that was because they were cut off from the main water body. They are a sunfish that don't cooperate in my limited experience. P.S. My family called them "perch" all my life cause that's what small fish were called. Whether they were freshwater or saltwater. I called them "bream" from a young age because that's what a den leader in my Cub Scout days called them. Go figure! Jagg, you are one of the very few people I've seen on here who have reported catching a flier. Few of us even know what one is. I've never seen one in person that i know of. The only other person I can think of was a guy who went by Starless Dragon who later changed to just Starless. He hasn't posted in a good while and I know he had some health problems. My memory is not very good these days, and I'm not certain if he caught it or just commented on the post. Heck maybe it was your flier and he just responded about it. Anyway, Justin was a very cool guy and there is a thread on here somewhere way back that he posted to that had a picture of a flier that was caught somewhere in a little bog pond over in east texas. Was that your Flier? Another Flier question for anyone who knows - someone said something once about them not being in the same group as the rest of our typical sunfish - bluegill, red ear, long ear, etc. I'm thinking maybe cichlid family or something like that. Any info about who fliers are related to? I found this at TPWD that has some flier info. TPWD-Flier Here's some pics i snagged off the net I don't know, they look like perch to me. Perch, indeed! What else could it be? Basically if its bigger'n a minner, and isn't sumptin' else, then it must be a perch. The flier ( Centrarchus macropterus) is a bit unique because it belongs to a monospecific genus. It is the only fish in the Genus Centrarchus (most of) the rest of the sunfish are in the Genus Lepomis. We get a lot of bantam sunfish at my farm, but they hardly get big enough to fish for. Pretty little fish though.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/21/15 05:19 PM
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What about this one? 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/21/15 09:37 PM
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/21/15 11:02 PM
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The eyes seemed to be more set on top, the nose sharper and the ear flap shorter than I had seen with other bluegills, so I was confused. Thanks Fishing_4_Life.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/22/15 12:23 AM
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Yes sir Jamie. Its just my  though. Maybe someone else can weight in on it too. The fish that I caught, with the exception of the middle pic, were too small to have big ears. The females have lighter colored and smaller ears while have males dark and larger ears. I caught two decent sized Coppernose Bluegill last year and thought they were both female because of how big they were they shouldve been filled out (or so I though). I brought them home and put the in my aquarium and then out of no one of them developed a larger ear and completely different colors. So now there one male and one female and the male has made 4 nests in the tank, pretty cool!  Side note: I fish 7 ponds at one place that I fish and the one were I caught these is the only one that I know for a fact has only Pure strain Bluegill in it. The rest consist of a variety.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/22/15 12:51 AM
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They all look Bluegill to me also. 
IGFA World Record Rio Grande Cichlid. Lake Dunlap. John 3:16 Sinner's Prayer. God forgive me a sinner. I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior !
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