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 Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: Fishing_4_Life]
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03/16/15 02:41 AM
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"Fishing_4_Life": Those top three fish look like hybrid for sure. It could also be the type of water they are located in causing a color change. Just my opinion only. The do have some Longear traits. I would guess Hybrid Longear! Fish 4 and 5 are Greens and six looks like a Bluegill. 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/16/15 02:42 AM
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Not a perch Is this a Bluegill and Longear hybrid? Aweful long ear on this fish but it has the bluegill color pattern.  That is a bluegill, Jamie, not a longear. A longear has a white edge on the ear opercule and is also quite a bit more colorful than that. The size of the ear opercule can be misleading, but that one is pure bluegill.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/16/15 03:04 AM
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Not a perch Is this a Bluegill and Longear hybrid? Aweful long ear on this fish but it has the bluegill color pattern. That is a bluegill, Jamie, not a longear. A longear has a white edge on the ear opercule and is also quite a bit more colorful than that. The size of the ear opercule can be misleading, but that one is pure bluegill. Confirmed by Texas Parks&Wildlife as a Longear. Caught on the West Nueces River last year. (Note) No white edge on the ear. I was told that in certain areas of the State Sunfish can be different on some of their obvious characteristics. Also several Biologist have said that over the past several years Sunfish have been inner mixing with other species in the sunfish family more than ever. They are becoming harder to identify for anglers like myself.  
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/16/15 03:17 AM
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Side Note: My guess Jamie after looking at your fish and comparing it to ones I have caught I would say it is a hybrid and would agree with Anthony that it has more more Bluegill traits than Longear. Again just my best guess. Got to love it. 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/16/15 04:33 AM
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Yeah some of the Longears here have white edges on the ear and sometimes even a redish tint. Water and location play a big part Banker, you are correct.
Side note: what Bluegill traits do you see? Just curious.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/16/15 08:06 AM
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Color pattern and some black coloring on the upper fin. 
IGFA World Record Rio Grande Cichlid. Lake Dunlap. John 3:16 Sinner's Prayer. God forgive me a sinner. I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior !
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/16/15 12:28 PM
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Not a Perch OK, Here is another one I caught yesterday out of the same pond. Looks like a Hybrid Green Sunfish to me. Thoughts? 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
[Re: J-Moe]
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03/16/15 10:49 PM
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Longear. 
IGFA World Record Rio Grande Cichlid. Lake Dunlap. John 3:16 Sinner's Prayer. God forgive me a sinner. I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior !
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 12:28 AM
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this is a perch: 
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 02:11 AM
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Banker is right, Longear. this is a perch: Its actually a Yellow Perch.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 02:51 AM
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Thanks Chuck and Fishing_4_Life
Cliff, I do see the white outer edge on the second picture. There is also and upward angle of the ear, as compared to laying straight back. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 02:54 AM
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this is a perch: LOL, Thanks Bass Bug, I actually never saw one.
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 03:21 AM
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It is actually more complicated, the nomenclature, that is.
Largemouth and smallmouth and other North American basses are actually sunfish.
And, the word 'bass' came to us from an English term, 'bars.'
And, 'bars' means 'perch.'
And, among the Perciformes (perch-like fish), one member is the bluegill.
So, a bluegill is a perch . . . and so is a largemouth bass.
Perch likely finds its roots with a meaning related to ray finned fish.
More tangled that a wind knot!
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 03:32 AM
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It is actually more complicated, the nomenclature, that is.
Largemouth and smallmouth and other North American basses are actually sunfish.
And, the word 'bass' came to us from an English term, 'bars.'
And, 'bars' means 'perch.'
And, among the Perciformes (perch-like fish), one member is the bluegill.
So, a bluegill is a perch . . . and so is a largemouth bass.
Perch likely finds its roots with a meaning related to ray finned fish.
More tangled that a wind knot!
Brad Awesome information Brad!  I have always called Sunfish as according to the Parks&Wildlife. The basic six are 1. Bluegill. 2.Redbreast. #3.Green. #4.Redear. #5.Longear. #6.Warmouth. Side Note: You can really complicate things up by adding in the hybrids. 
IGFA World Record Rio Grande Cichlid. Lake Dunlap. John 3:16 Sinner's Prayer. God forgive me a sinner. I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior !
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Re: Perch Species Identification
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03/17/15 03:35 AM
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It is actually more complicated, the nomenclature, that is.
Largemouth and smallmouth and other North American basses are actually sunfish.
And, the word 'bass' came to us from an English term, 'bars.'
And, 'bars' means 'perch.'
And, among the Perciformes (perch-like fish), one member is the bluegill.
So, a bluegill is a perch . . . and so is a largemouth bass.
Perch likely finds its roots with a meaning related to ray finned fish.
More tangled that a wind knot!
Brad There are several types of perch such as silver, american silver, white, ect. And Crappie are freshwater sunfish family as well. Tangled tangled tangled, I know thats right! 
Last edited by Fishing_4_Life; 03/17/15 03:36 AM.
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