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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: MBDLAW] #10479466 12/17/14 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: MBDLAW
just to put an end to the debate as to how to spell the short version of hydraulic fracturing:

http://www.hcn.org/blogs/goat/fracking-fracing-or-fraccing

peace.


That does not put an end to it ..... it just adds the opinion of somebody outside looking in!


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10479716 12/17/14 08:50 PM
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Alright, I will start calling it phracking. That gives it some street cred.

Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10479722 12/17/14 08:52 PM
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FRACK this .... I am going fishing!!!!


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10479735 12/17/14 08:58 PM
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You laughed. Admit it.

Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10479763 12/17/14 09:14 PM
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I admit it was phat.


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: Ketchn] #10480291 12/18/14 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ketchn
Originally Posted By: sac-a-lait me
Originally Posted By: OkieBob
I guess that the fact that the Metromess has doubled in population and we have added no new lakes has anything to do with it? Or the fact the annual rainfall has been substantially less the past few years??? Naw.....


I'm specifically talking about how lakes don't rise after hard rain like they were engineered to do. If the lakes would fill like they're supposed to then it would sustain larger population. Also how do you explain lakes in west Texas flat out drying up and no population boom.

I stand corrected sir .... I thought Pat started this thread hammer
but to be sure look up in the sky today
I saw them this morning
spray away Conag ....
they say its to prevent global warming
but they only spray right before every major storm system comes along
its a really long story ,but a lot of people think Conag is behind the current lower rainfalls .
you know they engineer seeds genetically I am sure
some to never reproduce another plant
some to have higher yields
and then some are rather drought resistant as well ......
and you can probably see where this is going
BIG BUSINESS it is for sure
deep in our government's pockets ....
btw aluminum oxide is an environmental nightmare
and our government is letting them spray away
dig deeper and find out about this so called conspiracy theory ....
maybe its for real ....I certainly wonder about it myself ... noidea


I have heard some about this. and it scares the hell out of me! I just cant wrap my head around it. The day's of letting the government handle things and not worrying about it are over for sure. Scary Sh$t.


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10480309 12/18/14 01:06 AM
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Oh and the fracking.. All that gas and oil is in the Earth for a reason.. Us humans will self destruct. That is a fact.


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10480371 12/18/14 01:30 AM
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Does anyone have any proof of this, or is this just a conspiracy thing?

Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10480698 12/18/14 03:58 AM
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If you look hard enough or talk to people in the business it doesn't take long to gather your own opinion. It's nearly unregulated from start to finish and there's no proof of the ripple effects of it (yet).

Business can be conducted in a manner least invasive and companies that profit (excessively) from it need to be the ones putting their best foot forward on it. This isn't the first time this has happened in history so remember that business has and will do what they want the cheapest they can until something happens.

Some more food for thought is there are no benefits for the tax payers who have footed the bill for all these reservoirs. No price drop of water, no benefit of less consumption, no new reservoirs, no boat ramp extentions etc. It's all kept between the municipality and the companies.

People who have lol "lakefront" properties have to pay the city a lease fee even though their land hasn't touched the lake in years? McDonald's and QT have an over watered beautiful lush green lawn in August while there are Residential water restrictions?

Just sayin sometimes the blue collars ain't the problem like we're being told we are.


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10480719 12/18/14 04:06 AM
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Understand the concept of frackng. But, have researched the lake levels of east Texas and wondering why some lakes usually stay full and others are low and stay low.

Results:
Lake Tyler has a drainage basin of 107 sq miles
Lake Palestine has a drainage basin of 839 sq miles. Also several creeks and the Neches river
Cedar Creek has a drainage basin of 1007 sq miles

Do not have the answers. Interesting results since all fisher folks have issues launching boats in low or no water ramps. Merry Christmas to all and good catch of crappie...


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10481355 12/18/14 04:29 PM
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Unfortunately it is a lack of rain in the watersheds that is the problem. We just can't seem to get the kind of rain that produces run-off like we need. It will happen. I doubt that the problem is the water used in fracking. Doesn't help, but not the fundamental problem. Using the 4.5 million gallons to develop a well as mentioned above, that amounts to only approx. 15 acre ft of water. That spread over a relatively small lake of 5,000 surface acres is not many inches.

We need rain to saturate the soils in the watershed and then we need rain on top of that for runoff.

Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10481445 12/18/14 05:17 PM
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I am in Eagle Ford, but I hear that in the Barnett Shale most of the water is recycled and less water is taken from the ground and local lakes and ponds.


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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10482155 12/18/14 10:33 PM
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Phracking - love it! - very Phunny! More debate helps as long as people are constructive. As i have said, i am new to this and just speak to what i see. Don't believe in conspiracy theories - just tired of rain and no improvement.


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I think they refract when the well starts playing out. Try to read something on that. Nobody promised anyone water your on your on . It goes to the highest bidder. Contrail, Cemtrail who knows.

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Re: Had an interesting conversation today [Re: sac-a-lait me] #10499994 12/28/14 11:02 PM
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Most of the frakkin in east texas is done by first drillin a water well.

Tanks may sit for 3-4 weeks before enough water has been accumulated to do the frakkin.

And doesn't the amount of water depend on the length of the horizontal bore?


Face it folks. There is no more "liquid" in this earth than there was 6000 years ago.

Lake Tyler watershed stinks compared to Palestine. ..

Then again. How much water falls on the city of Tyler and flows right down west mud creek into Rayburn?

City of Tyler needs to be the principal owner of Lake Columbia/Eastex and pump water back in to Tyler.


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