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Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 02:20 AM
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sac-a-lait me
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So I spoke with a gentleman in the Fracking business today about underground aquifers and how lakes around here don't rise after inches of rainfall in surrounding drainage areas.
Does anyone here think the "drought" excuse is going to work again this year or are municipalities going to post user quantities to actually pinpoint the problem? I probably know the answer to my own question so have fun thinking on it. The numbers are astonishing and subjective but you watering your lawn doesn't hold a candle to drilling through a 500 year old water table on top of an underground cavern..........
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 03:39 AM
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Stucky76
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Never thought of that and something to think about. I know we haven't gotten the rain like we need recently but when 4 inches of rain fall in the watershed of Cedar Creek and the lake comes up 6 inches something isn't right.
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 12:36 PM
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Lucky you, we get 4" of rain here and Fork drops 2"
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 12:48 PM
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interesting subject for sure Pat , and I am sure we have several culprits involved in our ever deteriorating water supply . on the national average our general population also uses more per capita on the average as well .someday it would be nice if we developed the wisdom to see how and why and what we are doing to our planet . there will never be another drop of water "made" as some of you know and as a species we have zero respect for that . BTW in the big scheme of things do you ever wonder about the spraying of aluminum oxide into our upper atmosphere to "control" the green house effect and the effects on our rainfall ? big business has the money to do as they see fit to make a profit in many cases and in a lot of cases the greed far outweighs common sense .......
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 12:58 PM
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DavisGuideService
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It pisses me off thinking about it.cant even launch on my home lake!
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 12:58 PM
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I guess that the fact that the Metromess has doubled in population and we have added no new lakes has anything to do with it? Or the fact the annual rainfall has been substantially less the past few years??? Naw.....
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 01:02 PM
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Ditto that, can't get on my home lake, Eagle Mountain for a long time now!! It pisses me off thinking about it.cant even launch on my home lake!
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 01:11 PM
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I guess that the fact that the Metromess has doubled in population and we have added no new lakes has anything to do with it? Or the fact the annual rainfall has been substantially less the past few years??? Naw..... I'm specifically talking about how lakes don't rise after hard rain like they were engineered to do. If the lakes would fill like they're supposed to then it would sustain larger population. Also how do you explain lakes in west Texas flat out drying up and no population boom.
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 01:49 PM
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 01:57 PM
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There are a lot of variables. The amount of rain is obviously the biggest. Usage is huge. I believe the last lake built around here was Joe Pool. The building of lakes will obviously not keep up with the population growth. Unfortunately, conservation is going to be a bigger and bigger thing. maybe they can build golf courses where our lakes used to be, and we can still go to those areas for old times sakes.
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 05:18 PM
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I read an article, a while back, that stated that each well requires about 4.5 million gallons of water to perform the fracking procedure. Because it is not cost effective to ship in water for these operations the water is taken locally, so some of that water is taken directly from lakes some comes from the water supply but either way you cut it that is a lot of water and it has to play a part in the the water levels of area lakes. But don't get me started on the whole fracking thing.
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 05:20 PM
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Ketchn
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I guess that the fact that the Metromess has doubled in population and we have added no new lakes has anything to do with it? Or the fact the annual rainfall has been substantially less the past few years??? Naw..... I'm specifically talking about how lakes don't rise after hard rain like they were engineered to do. If the lakes would fill like they're supposed to then it would sustain larger population. Also how do you explain lakes in west Texas flat out drying up and no population boom. I stand corrected sir .... I thought Pat started this thread but to be sure look up in the sky today I saw them this morning spray away Conag .... they say its to prevent global warming but they only spray right before every major storm system comes along its a really long story ,but a lot of people think Conag is behind the current lower rainfalls . you know they engineer seeds genetically I am sure some to never reproduce another plant some to have higher yields and then some are rather drought resistant as well ...... and you can probably see where this is going BIG BUSINESS it is for sure deep in our government's pockets .... btw aluminum oxide is an environmental nightmare and our government is letting them spray away dig deeper and find out about this so called conspiracy theory .... maybe its for real ....I certainly wonder about it myself ...
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 07:24 PM
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I have sold water for frackin and it's not 4.5 million.also remember that when have drought everything upstream must fill first before run off Darrell
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 07:43 PM
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UH OH! I see a contradiction of facts on the horizon!
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Re: Had an interesting conversation today
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12/16/14 07:44 PM
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