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They are Pumping From FORK !!! #10380352 10/30/14 11:14 AM
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I received an e-mail from a reliable source, currently they are pumping 90-100 million gals a day from Fork

Here are excerpts from the e-mail

As I shared with some of you DWU has been trying to perform a 3-day test of their pumps, which if successfully completed would mean they could sign off on the contract with the pump installer and enter into a 1-year warranty period. When they attempted the first 3-day test a few weeks ago one of the pumps did not work properly. They had hoped to complete the 3-day test last week, but I have now been informed that the necessary parts for the pump will take 2-4 weeks, so the 3-day test will be delayed until then


In the mean time they are continuing to pump between 90 to 100 million gallons per day from Lake Fork. I asked if the decision to pump from Lake Fork instead of Tawakoni was based on Tawakoni reaching too low of a point at its outfall or if it was just a decision that Tawakoni was too low in comparison to Lake Fork. Ken's answer was that they stopped pumping Tawakoni because it was well over 11 feet low, while Fork is over 6 feet low. That tells me they could still pump from Tawakoni if they wanted to. However, he did share with me that the NTMWD is sucking up to 75 million gallons per day out of Tawakoni through their intake, so Tawakoni is being drawn down.

Due to delivery issues no water is yet going from Fork to Tawakoni for the ntmwd. Everything being pumped from Fork is going to the East Plant for Dallas

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Yep been doing it for a little while now. I got the same email.

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No surprise here. IMHO, science and logic never supported the idea that evaporation was the only reason for the water level dropping 3" a week with the weather like it has been.


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Re: They are Pumping From FORK !!! [Re: papamark] #10380377 10/30/14 11:38 AM
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Only sad thing about the amount getting pumped out will be going mostly to landscape, not for drinking and cleaning water. There needs to be some major regulation put in place or at least addressed if we stay in the drought. The amount of run off from home lawns and business landscapes is pretty sickening. And the watering on odd and even days just don't cut it for me.

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Originally Posted By: J-BURN
Only sad thing about the amount getting pumped out will be going mostly to landscape, not for drinking and cleaning water. There needs to be some major regulation put in place or at least addressed if we stay in the drought. The amount of run off from home lawns and business landscapes is pretty sickening. And the watering on odd and even days just don't cut it for me.


If we continue on a pace of 50% of what is considered normal rainfall for N. Texas we are going to have some real problems. Hoping for some real rain but not seeing much to make me very optimistic.

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Originally Posted By: J-BURN
Only sad thing about the amount getting pumped out will be going mostly to landscape, not for drinking and cleaning water. There needs to be some major regulation put in place or at least addressed if we stay in the drought. The amount of run off from home lawns and business landscapes is pretty sickening. And the watering on odd and even days just don't cut it for me.


I agree. I see the city of Mansfield watering areas of grass between roads and between the side walk and residential streets and a great deal of it is running down the road into the gutter. Total waste.

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We need to take some lessons from our Western friends & install more dry landscape. We also need to lean on our Guberment to put the EPA in check so we can get some more lakes built.

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We will be in real trouble in 20 years (if we make it that long). We have the drought, wasteful watering on yards, increase in population at a huge rate. On too if our lakes drying up folks in the heartland are sucking up the Oglala aquifer at a exponential rate. It was first taped in the very late 30's to early 40's and is now at about 45% of what it was.

Yes as a fisherman no water will suck, but when the farms in the heartland have no water to grow crops we will really see a level of hell. That doesn't even bring into account drinking water.


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Originally Posted By: ezbassin
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Only sad thing about the amount getting pumped out will be going mostly to landscape, not for drinking and cleaning water. There needs to be some major regulation put in place or at least addressed if we stay in the drought. The amount of run off from home lawns and business landscapes is pretty sickening. And the watering on odd and even days just don't cut it for me.


I agree. I see the city of Mansfield watering areas of grass between roads and between the side walk and residential streets and a great deal of it is running down the road into the gutter. Total waste.


And every time I drive down Broad in the evening, I have just washed my truck it seems!!...


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There was a post on here last week talking about the same thing!!!! Y'all act like this is the end of the world! We all knew it was going to happen sooner or later. By God we need water over here in DFW to wash out nasty arses with!!!!! And to water Mommas flowers .

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not saying we don't need the water but wasn't fork only a couple feet low 6 months ago? i don't see it as the end of the world just yet. rains will come


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Originally Posted By: J-BURN
Only sad thing about the amount getting pumped out will be going mostly to landscape, not for drinking and cleaning water. There needs to be some major regulation put in place or at least addressed if we stay in the drought. The amount of run off from home lawns and business landscapes is pretty sickening. And the watering on odd and even days just don't cut it for me.


I'm assuming this is your hunch and not factual...

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I think every city should be required to use reclaimed water to water their city-owned landscapes and common areas. Would require a mega re-work of their piping/delivery, but if its that important to them, they'll pay to have it done. The reclaimed water would come from pnds and lakes WITHIN their own boundaries. If they don't have that now, build it. If there isn't room for it, install dryscape. Done.


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Originally Posted By: lakeforkfisherman
I think every city should be required to use reclaimed water to water their city-owned landscapes and common areas. Would require a mega re-work of their piping/delivery, but if its that important to them, they'll pay to have it done. The reclaimed water would come from pnds and lakes WITHIN their own boundaries. If they don't have that now, build it. If there isn't room for it, install dryscape. Done.


Give an example of anywhere this has been done...

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I think every city should be required to use reclaimed water to water their city-owned landscapes and common areas. Would require a mega re-work of their piping/delivery, but if its that important to them, they'll pay to have it done. The reclaimed water would come from pnds and lakes WITHIN their own boundaries. If they don't have that now, build it. If there isn't room for it, install dryscape. Done.


Give an example of anywhere this has been done...

I don't have one- its an idea/opinion. However, many golf courses use reclaimed water to water their grass. LasColinas TPC is one example.


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Originally Posted By: lakeforkfisherman
I think every city should be required to use reclaimed water to water their city-owned landscapes and common areas. Would require a mega re-work of their piping/delivery, but if its that important to them, they'll pay to have it done. The reclaimed water would come from pnds and lakes WITHIN their own boundaries. If they don't have that now, build it. If there isn't room for it, install dryscape. Done.



Isn't this what the water treatment plants already do?


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Originally Posted By: lakeforkfisherman
I think every city should be required to use reclaimed water to water their city-owned landscapes and common areas. Would require a mega re-work of their piping/delivery, but if its that important to them, they'll pay to have it done. The reclaimed water would come from pnds and lakes WITHIN their own boundaries. If they don't have that now, build it. If there isn't room for it, install dryscape. Done.


And what happens when this reclaimed water resivoir fills up and creates a habitat that promotes largemouth bass growth? Do we go and build another one?

Lake Fork Resivoir was created for this.

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Sweet! Maybe they'll leave some water in Ray Hubbard!


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Frisco has been building out a reuse system since the first reuse pump station was built in 2001. The system has been expanded regularly as the city has grown. Many schools, common areas, and the Trails Golf Course use effluent for irrigation. Still a long way to go but there is a master plan and ongoing implementation.

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Originally Posted By: ifeliciano
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Isn't this what the water treatment plants already do?


Water treatment plants clean the incoming water so it becomes potable. Sewer treatment plants treat waste and a by-product is effluent water that typically is treated only well enough to route back into the creek/river system and flows to the downstream watershed. Re-use systems capture that effluent and treat it enough to be used for irrigation but that requires an entirely separate piping system, including pumping since elevated tanks are typically only built for the incoming/potable water as a way to pressurize the system.

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Originally Posted By: mbay1455

Water treatment plants clean the incoming water so it becomes potable. Sewer treatment plants treat waste and a by-product is effluent water that typically is treated only well enough to route back into the creek/river system and flows to the downstream watershed. Re-use systems capture that effluent and treat it enough to be used for irrigation but that requires an entirely separate piping system, including pumping since elevated tanks are typically only built for the incoming/potable water as a way to pressurize the system.


Sewer treatment is what i meant. Thanks for correcting that.


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6' - 12' is going to be the normal range for the old gal from now on.....bet it.....they are going to take 5' every year from now on.


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A factual hunch. Dallas has NO water conservation measures in place.

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The "It'll rain eventually" water plan seems pretty legit maybe the BRA will consult them lol.

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Fact is that any reservoir's primary function is not to appease fishermen. Nor should it be. Imagine a world where the millions of dollars that would go into creating / maintaining a Lake Fork that was solely meant for fishing. Who does that expense get passed on to? Most people could not afford to fish it. And good luck finding an investment group that would be willing to put the money up in hopes that they could lure enough people to ever see a return on their money.


It's 6 foot low and that sucks. We were there last weekend and all you could do was dream of what it would look like at full pool, especially with all the growth that's popped up while it's down. I didn't see a single fish jumping onto the bank trying to get to their favorite clump of grass, stump, etc...

The fish are adjusting, that's what we'll have to do until the rains get it back.

Keep calm and fish on.

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As one poster mentioned the last time this topic surfaced, Fork and Twok were build as water supply lakes. Why all the drama and faux intrigue about water being pumped from either one?

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As one poster mentioned the last time this topic surfaced, Fork and Twok were build as water supply lakes. Why all the drama and faux intrigue about water being pumped from either one?

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6' down..... Oh my god!!! It's the apocalypse!!! I wished our lakes on this side were just twice that


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Originally Posted By: papamark
I received an e-mail from a reliable source, currently they are pumping 90-100 million gals a day from Fork

Here are excerpts from the e-mail


Due to delivery issues no water is yet going from Fork to Tawakoni for the ntmwd. Everything being pumped from Fork is going to the East Plant for Dallas


Please ask for a clarification on this sentence. As I undertsand it, the pipeline of fork water headed for Dallas is south of the dam and never enters tawakoni. NTMWD already has access to tawakoni water as they assumed the allotment of Terrell when they joined NTMWD


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This lake died 20 yes ago with or without the water. RIP fork. You wasted 5 years of my life.

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Originally Posted By: Jersey Dan
This lake died 20 yes ago with or without the water. RIP fork. You wasted 5 years of my life.


Don't know if it died but as it relates to Share Lunkers, it is in decline.

28 years of the SAL program.

The first 14 years = 194

The last 14 years = 62

1986- 1
1987- 2
1988-8
1989- 15
1990- 18
1991- 21
1992- 21
1993- 18
1994- 19
1995- 22
1996- 18

1997- 6
1998- 7
1999- 9
2000- 7
2001- 1
2002- 7
2003- 6
2004- 9
2005- 5
2006- 8
2007- 6
2008- 3
2009- 4
2010- 3
2011- 2
2012- 2
2013- 5
2014- 1


I would ask the question: What the hell happened between 1996-1997 to start such a drastic decline in those numbers that never returned anywhere near what they were?

Somebody needs to figure out what was being done between 1989 - 1996 and replicate it. 60% of certified SAL's were caught in 8 consecutive years of the 28 total.




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Originally Posted By: soonersorlaters
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This lake died 20 yes ago with or without the water. RIP fork. You wasted 5 years of my life.


Don't know if it died but as it relates to Share Lunkers, it is in decline.

28 years of the SAL program.

The first 14 years = 194

The last 14 years = 62

1986- 1
1987- 2
1988-8
1989- 15
1990- 18
1991- 21
1992- 21
1993- 18
1994- 19
1995- 22
1996- 18

1997- 6
1998- 7
1999- 9
2000- 7
2001- 1
2002- 7
2003- 6
2004- 9
2005- 5
2006- 8
2007- 6
2008- 3
2009- 4
2010- 3
2011- 2
2012- 2
2013- 5
2014- 1


I would ask the question: What the hell happened between 1996-1997 to start such a drastic decline in those numbers that never returned anywhere near what they were?

Somebody needs to figure out what was being done between 1989 - 1996 and replicate it. 60% of certified SAL's were caught in 8 consecutive years of the 28 total.




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LMB virus and the lake has aged

like anything else. age can cause impotence


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Originally Posted By: Jersey Dan
This lake died 20 yes ago with or without the water. RIP fork. You wasted 5 years of my life.


Don't know if it died but as it relates to Share Lunkers, it is in decline.

28 years of the SAL program.

The first 14 years = 194

The last 14 years = 62

1986- 1
1987- 2
1988-8
1989- 15
1990- 18
1991- 21
1992- 21
1993- 18
1994- 19
1995- 22
1996- 18

1997- 6
1998- 7
1999- 9
2000- 7
2001- 1
2002- 7
2003- 6
2004- 9
2005- 5
2006- 8
2007- 6
2008- 3
2009- 4
2010- 3
2011- 2
2012- 2
2013- 5
2014- 1


I would ask the question: What the hell happened between 1996-1997 to start such a drastic decline in those numbers that never returned anywhere near what they were?

Somebody needs to figure out what was being done between 1989 - 1996 and replicate it. 60% of certified SAL's were caught in 8 consecutive years of the 28 total.




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LMB virus and the lake has aged

like anything else. age can cause sedimentation and impotence


Was the LMB virus around that 1996-1997 timeline. I don't know.

I get the aging part. I was wondering if the lack of removal of unders, sand bass, reduced bait fish, et al were in play also.

Until I pulled the numbers and did the math, I had no idea how significant the falloff was.

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They caught it in 1998 in Fork. Probably started earlier... (lmb virus). http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat/fish/didyouknow/inland/lmb_virus.phtml

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Will they continue to pump from lakes that have zebra muscles or that have new reportings of zebra muscles.

Do you see anglers taking action by cross contaminating lakes? I was just on Lake Belton and that lake has incredibly been taken over by zebra muscles except Stillhouse Hollow which is right down the road does not have any signs of Muscles. Which is weird since most central texas fishermen would fish both. I can tell you thou the Smallmouth Fishing on Belton is now amazing has to be from all the zebra muscles and the clarity is just wow makes you feel like your way up north.

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Yep. Been using water from eagle mountain and other area lakes as well. Makes sense that all lakes are impacted by the drought. Makes me really consider where to buy lake front property. It could turn into an eye sore over a summer...

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There is a lot that goes on up here at Fork that is kept under the rug. The year of the fish kill in 99 the TP&W sprayed to kill grass just 4 months before the kill. Not sure it had anything to do with the kill but it is a possibility that it did.

Right now the age of a 16 inch fish is 3.9 yrs old. To me that is not good when we have this much forage. With a short life span of a bass he may never reach trophy weight at this rate. IMO

I just wished through all the years of the SAL program they would have just kept the fish in the lake and I think we could have seen even better years of big fish over all. Cannot take all the genetics out of a school or herd and expect good results and big growth. IMO

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Mark couldn't have said it better. Lots of Sharelunkers caught and not turned in as well, including mine.

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The decline in SALs has to be influenced by fishing pressure. With the number of anglers that fish it yearly I call it a minor miracle that TPWD can keep the fishing as good as it is. Hit the water the day after skeeter owners 2 years ago and we caught plenty. Put that many boats on someplace like ozarks or table rock and they'll be jacked up for a week. Pray for rain because they are not going to stop pumping anytime soon.

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6' low??? Omg omg omg everyone set their hair on fire and run around in circles!

Come on down to Amistad, falcon, and choke, and then cry to me about your "low" lake levels.

Also, stop watering your lawns, you bunch of tards.

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stop watering your lawns

For sure. Nobody has the right to use water that they pay for each month. Lake Fork was built and payed for by people that own bass boats. Anyone using our water is a thief! That whole electricity thing should be banned also. Another thing that bothers me is when I pull into a gas station and the other cars don't move out of my way. I HAVE A BOAT! It's my gas pump, not theirs.

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Cities should not suck the lake dry and just waste the water either. The city of Mansfield needs to stop watering the roads. Im sure there is a lot of water wasted in other surrounding cities as well that use water from Fork. They are sucking it dry.

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Originally Posted By: Jersey Dan
This lake died 20 yes ago with or without the water. RIP fork. You wasted 5 years of my life.


I don't know if you are joking or not, but it's certainly not the same lake it was 20 yrs ago....Now, the guides and the locals that can fish damn near everyday or 2-4 times a week are figuring it out just by going all the time, but the avg Joe who only gets to fish it a few times a year can and will get your butt kicked on it more times than not. Things and times change.

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stop watering your lawns

For sure. Nobody has the right to use water that they pay for each month. Lake Fork was built and payed for by people that own bass boats. Anyone using our water is a thief! That whole electricity thing should be banned also. Another thing that bothers me is when I pull into a gas station and the other cars don't move out of my way. I HAVE A BOAT! It's my gas pump, not theirs.


Perhaps I should clarify so more of you understand...

Turfgrass does not need to be watered multiple times each week in order to keep it green and healthy. Once it is established, it needs less than 1" of water per week DURING THE GROWING SEASON. In fall and winter months, it needs water about once per month, if that. I haven't watered my yard in 14 months, and it is still as green as anyone else's in my neighborhood. Infrequent, deep watering will promote deeper root growth, and once you have deeper roots, the Turfgrass will need less irrigation. I have seen office buildings in Dallas that water their grass 5 times per week, and if you were to dig up that grass, the roots would not be deeper than 2", which makes them need more irrigation.
If you feel that you should water your yard as much as you want, then don't start bitching when your lake is empty, because it is your fault.


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So California won't let farmers grow crops by pulling water because of some small endangered fish. Let's put some noninvasive dangered species in all the good fishing lakes so dwu can't touch the water anymore! We have enough crazy California liberal types in Austin that would pickett for days while we all enjoy fishing lakes like fork. If we have to live with hammer and sickle communists might as well put them to some good use since they do not want to have liberty and freedom. Don't think many actually create anything but regulations, taxes, and a drain on hard working people. That way my hard work to still allows me to enjoy great fishing. Plus I am lucky to get a chance to hire a fork guide few times a year to take clients fishing so I want fork to be the best lake in the country for years to come. There can't be many lakes that have created as many livelihoods as fork for as long as fork has, not just guides but everything out there. Don't get offended just my opinion and sarcasm since I am free to say what i want right!

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IMO, remember where you LIVE. This is Texas, not the land of turf grasses, i.e, Bermuda/St. Augustine .....this IS the land of prairie grasses and those that require little water.
You want to be 'environmentally friendly? Plant for the climate you live in.
That will use MUCH less water.
Businesses especially should be made to do this.



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stop watering your lawns

For sure. Nobody has the right to use water that they pay for each month. Lake Fork was built and payed for by people that own bass boats. Anyone using our water is a thief! That whole electricity thing should be banned also. Another thing that bothers me is when I pull into a gas station and the other cars don't move out of my way. I HAVE A BOAT! It's my gas pump, not theirs.


Perhaps I should clarify so more of you understand...

Turfgrass does not need to be watered multiple times each week in order to keep it green and healthy. Once it is established, it needs less than 1" of water per week DURING THE GROWING SEASON. In fall and winter months, it needs water about once per month, if that. I haven't watered my yard in 14 months, and it is still as green as anyone else's in my neighborhood. Infrequent, deep watering will promote deeper root growth, and once you have deeper roots, the Turfgrass will need less irrigation. I have seen office buildings in Dallas that water their grass 5 times per week, and if you were to dig up that grass, the roots would not be deeper than 2", which makes them need more irrigation.
If you feel that you should water your yard as much as you want, then don't start bitching when your lake is empty, because it is your fault.


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Water is too cheap. That is the only problem, along with no rain north of I20.


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or West of Dallas!


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Looks like they really increased the pumping. About 1.5" in the last 24 hours.


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Originally Posted By: Fish Killer
6' down..... Oh my god!!! It's the apocalypse!!! I wished our lakes on this side were just twice that
roflmao Good one!!! Me to.....I wish


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You do realize the average depth of lake fork at full pool is 20 feet. It doesn't compare directly to highland lakes.

I know the lakes in south and west Texas are lower and hope we all get a lot of rain soon. No need to argue over who has it worse.

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Man, I hope the Sandbass will be ok.


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