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What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/18/14 11:46 PM
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UsCav28
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Opinions wanted..... Personally I just think we lost the last 2 spawns before this year... What do you think?
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/19/14 12:11 AM
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Donald Harper
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I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there. They have to have grass and it has to be deep to attract a reasonable number of bass. Otherwise they are going deep and are going to stay there against the walls where they just wait for the shad to swim down the wall. When the 25 foot tall grass comes back they will show up.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/19/14 01:02 AM
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I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there. They have to have grass and it has to be deep to attract a reasonable number of bass. Otherwise they are going deep and are going to stay there against the walls where they just wait for the shad to swim down the wall. When the 25 foot tall grass comes back they will show up. Agree!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/19/14 01:09 AM
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Frank the Tank
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Look at Derek Remitz when he won there, he was fishing in 30-40 feet of water off a ledge when he won if I am not mistaken, maybe deeper?
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/19/14 01:34 AM
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Alex Finch
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Look at Derek Remitz when he won there, he was fishing in 30-40 feet of water off a ledge when he won if I am not mistaken, maybe deeper? Funny you mention this. I watched that tournament earlier today. Weights in tournaments on Amistad are nowhere near where they were when Remitz won and when Ish won the year before that. I've never fished the lake, but as an observer, it appears the lake is not producing quite like it was. Btw, Remitz was fishing deeper than Ike and Steve Kennedy in that tournament, but the fish were producing anywhere from 8' out to 30'+. That was in March though.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/19/14 01:53 AM
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They are in there but not fishing like it has been in previous years. Our club fishes it 4 times a year. Years back you could pull in to cove and knock the carp out of them. We have caught numbers, just no DD'S and big bass has been nothing to write home about.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/19/14 01:58 AM
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Donald Harper
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Not everybody knows how to get a bass to bite suspended over 100 feet of water against the wall at 45 ft. deep, out in the middle of the lake. If the wind is blowing no one can do it. You can't keep the brush hog against the wall even with a 1.5 oz. bullet.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/19/14 02:29 AM
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Jarrett Latta
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We will see if platinum can figure it out in a couple weeks. I'm hearing even the local sticks are struggling with limits
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/19/14 02:34 AM
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Some of those fish might be holding on those walls but, we launched at Black Brush and run up the Devils River a mile or so past Rough Canyon. I caught 90% of mine on top water (Yellow Magic) in and around tree's and the rest on spinner bait in less than 5 feet of water. Had a blow up that could have gone over 8lbs. Some in our club caught them deep and some didn't. The wind blew like he77 and my best catch's were on a windy point. The bass are there and everywhere. Fun lake to fish!!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/19/14 03:30 AM
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It's nothing like it was 3-4 yrs ago. Haven't heard of a good day from anyone at the ramp this year....
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/19/14 02:19 PM
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fishnfireman
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It's nothing like it was 3-4 yrs ago. Haven't heard of a good day from anyone at the ramp this year.... It will take several years of good conditions to get the numbers back to where they were.. There are a few folks who still think that all the fish simply went deep.. But very few.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/19/14 03:04 PM
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Donald Harper
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Just pick a nice calm day so you can work off shore. Go to the underwater bluffs that extend out in the lake at Cow Creek, bluffs on the right side of the Devils river going to Rough Canyon, and the bluffs on the right side of the San Pedro. These are just a few of the many.
I am seeing thousands of big bass all schooled up against the walls. I have seen them and caught many during the years that the grass goes away. This is what they do every time. Just idle the vertical walls and watch the down imaging, you want believe what you are seeing with the huge numbers.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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07/19/14 10:11 PM
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Just pick a nice calm day so you can work off shore. Go to the underwater bluffs that extend out in the lake at Cow Creek, bluffs on the right side of the Devils river going to Rough Canyon, and the bluffs on the right side of the San Pedro. These are just a few of the many.
I am seeing thousands of big bass all schooled up against the walls. I have seen them and caught many during the years that the grass goes away. This is what they do every time. Just idle the vertical walls and watch the down imaging, you want believe what you are seeing with the huge numbers. Just curious---- IF there are "thousands of big bass schooled up against the walls" WHY is NO ONE catching them ?? I think there are plenty of good fishermen who could catch these fish-- IF they were as you say.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/20/14 01:30 AM
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That lakes been off for a few years. Too much pressure, keeping big fish and snow birds. All the locals I've talked to think something got in the water when it came up ealier
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 01:35 AM
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It's 9 hours away... #1 problem with Amistad and Falcon.
So freaking excited that Texas Team Trail is all up north this year so I can probably join in the fun!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 02:35 AM
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I went to Amistad last year and there seine nets tied up everywhere in the shallows. We saw some bass moving up on beds and getting caught in the nets. We spent a whole day cutting nets off stakes.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 02:45 AM
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Donald Harper
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Just a couple or reasons that keeps me from catching them. - Wind - I cannot stay vertical over them and the bait must be right against the wall. It must be a very calm day and the lake needs to be slick. - Survival rate - They will not live if you put them in the livewell. They will continue to air up after being fizzed.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 04:06 AM
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Jarrett Latta
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Just a couple or reasons that keeps me from catching them. - Wind - I cannot stay vertical over them and the bait must be right against the wall. It must be a very calm day and the lake needs to be slick. - Survival rate - They will not live if you put them in the livewell. They will continue to air up after being fizzed. Donald what about a big spinnerbait on those deep ledges? You think that would work? How much of a difference does the nightcrawler scent help? Seems like a great idea.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 04:32 AM
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I have caught lots of big bass slow rolling a spinner bait at 25 to 30 ft. on Amistad. I always use the Minnow scent on them.
Most of the bass over 10 lbs. have come from other fisherman that I have talked to that do this on a regular basis at night on Amistad. There was a group that came down and stayed in the trailer next to me at Tommy's on River St. They would be coming in or at the boat ramp as I was going out each morning and their phones were loaded with big fish every morning. It is something that is better done at night.
I never see very many of these bass that I am talking about on top of or at the edge of the ledge. They are always way deeper and against the wall in the shade, just waiting for the shad to swim down the wall.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 05:24 PM
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I have caught lots of big bass slow rolling a spinner bait at 25 to 30 ft. on Amistad. I always use the Minnow scent on them.
Most of the bass over 10 lbs. have come from other fisherman that I have talked to that do this on a regular basis at night on Amistad. There was a group that came down and stayed in the trailer next to me at Tommy's on River St. They would be coming in or at the boat ramp as I was going out each morning and their phones were loaded with big fish every morning. It is something that is better done at night.
I never see very many of these bass that I am talking about on top of or at the edge of the ledge. They are always way deeper and against the wall in the shade, just waiting for the shad to swim down the wall. And WHEN was this ???
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 09:41 PM
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Donald Harper
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In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest. Those are the 3 trips that I can remember them being there when I was there. I am sure they come often just to fish at night.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 09:58 PM
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2006! Now that is some fresh info right there.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 10:47 PM
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The fish are still there, they just aren't in a high percentage area, meaning that they aren't where they will be easily caught. I'm sure the population has gone down some, but if the water level was stable and the grass came back the numbers would come up dramatically. It is an awesome fishery, but can be almost impossible to fish effectively when it is in the state it is in now.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/20/14 11:56 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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Yeah bud light took 11lbs to win with some very good fisherman. Now that's tough! Heard a few being caught in 25-30ft.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 01:32 AM
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In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest. Those are the 3 trips that I can remember them being there when I was there. I am sure they come often just to fish at night. My friend you are living in the past. The OP was asking about present time. The numbers of bass at Amistad from the spring of 2013 until present is just a fraction of what they were from 1996 through 2010 If you could not catch fish on Amistad from 1996 until 2008... You might want to consider golf. The number of bass in the lake during that time period was (UNBELIAVABLE) That was during the time when a 25 pound sack would not get a second look. You would LEAVE 5 pounders to look for bigger fish.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 02:00 AM
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In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest. Those are the 3 trips that I can remember them being there when I was there. I am sure they come often just to fish at night. My friend you are living in the past. The OP was asking about present time. The numbers of bass at Amistad from the spring of 2013 until present is just a fraction of what they were from 1996 through 2010 If you could not catch fish on Amistad from 1996 until 2008... You might want to consider golf. The number of bass in the lake during that time period was (UNBELIAVABLE) That was during the time when a 25 pound sack would not get a second look. You would LEAVE 5 pounders to look for bigger fish. I agree 100%
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 03:24 AM
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Well if you didn't want to know when it was, you shouldn't have ask. I have never said the fishing was as good as it was in those days. I just told the poster where they are.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 03:37 AM
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 03:56 AM
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Please add, when you fish the lake for 35 years and have gone through seeing the bass disappear for long periods of time over those years; you might have a clue where they are.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 12:07 PM
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Ok guys lets settle down a little. He's just trying to pass info. Use it or don't..Yes its been tough,but Mr. Harper is correct. They are deep may not be in the numbers we have seen in the past but they are out there. When the early bite dies off try deep, Walls on the devils have been producing. Doesn't seem like the wind will settle down but can still hang. Also found them deep off humps out of San Pedro (40 ft). Been in the area since 87 and it's a tough as I can see.
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07/21/14 12:36 PM
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Ok guys lets settle down a little. He's just trying to pass info. Use it or don't..Yes its been tough,but Mr. Harper is correct. They are deep may not be in the numbers we have seen in the past but they are out there. When the early bite dies off try deep, Walls on the devils have been producing. Doesn't seem like the wind will settle down but can still hang. Also found them deep off humps out of San Pedro (40 ft). Been in the area since 87 and it's a tough as I can see. that is pretty up to date info. Most lakes cycle in population. Combine that cycle with other factors such as extreme water fluctuations, loss of aquatic vegetation, and even LMBV (Rayburn and Fork), and then fishing can get tough.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 01:12 PM
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I remember a Permian we fished about 8 years ago where we thought we'd be in the top 3 with 25 lbs the first day. Turned out that Huckleby and his partner had 35 lbs and then came in with 33 the last day. We ended up in 5th
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 01:19 PM
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Show a little respect why don't you. Grow up. If you do not have anything good to say. Say nothing at all . In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest. Those are the 3 trips that I can remember them being there when I was there. I am sure they come often just to fish at night. My friend you are living in the past. The OP was asking about present time. The numbers of bass at Amistad from the spring of 2013 until present is just a fraction of what they were from 1996 through 2010 If you could not catch fish on Amistad from 1996 until 2008... You might want to consider golf. The number of bass in the lake during that time period was (UNBELIAVABLE) That was during the time when a 25 pound sack would not get a second look. You would LEAVE 5 pounders to look for bigger fish.
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07/21/14 01:34 PM
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Your right; That was a little harsh... But true.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 02:31 PM
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No harshness taken my friend. You are right I live too much in the past trying to put together a reason for the bass population disappearing, by looking back on my past experiences over the years.
I am absolutely sure and agree with the OP, that the spawns the last two years have suffered. Big Blue has a way to use that though to produce bigger bass for the next time she becomes productive. Just the lack of competition for food will help the lake produce bigger bass in the future. It is my opinion that when the grass gets back to provide the hiding places for some of the fry, the lake will catch up on the spawns down the road.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 03:09 PM
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I haven't been in over a year and it was tough. But, my buddy who lives there said they have been fishing the Pecos river and have actually been catching good numbers and some decent size. Talked to him last night and he said they caught a couple just over 5 pounds and around 20 fish in a few hours and he said they have had a few trips like that. I know that isn't quite on the lake but if you are wanting to go down there that might be the place to go.
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07/21/14 03:54 PM
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Donald
When the grass finally comes back, what's the best way to fish it? Seems like I remember you saying something about flipping the thicker areas? What's your go to bait?
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07/21/14 04:18 PM
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The grass has a lot of growing to do to get to 25 ft. tall. When this does take place they will be making their way back to it as it grows.
My rig that I use is a heavy drop shot, 1 oz. on 50 lb. braid. The bait is a 4.5 Hoo Daddy in WATERMELON NEON. Patches bait shop carries them down there at Amistad. The Hoo Daddy is now made in watermelon Red which looks the same but it is not. They will light up the neon in the hollow under the grass.
Sending a PM of the rig and how to fish it.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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When you get old and fat you don't get out of the house much and all you got to talk about is the past. It's better than having shite in mouth disease!
214-783-8701 Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress; but I repeat myself - Mark Twain
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/21/14 08:02 PM
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Just a couple or reasons that keeps me from catching them. - Wind - I cannot stay vertical over them and the bait must be right against the wall. It must be a very calm day and the lake needs to be slick. - Survival rate - They will not live if you put them in the livewell. They will continue to air up after being fizzed. Donald what about a big spinnerbait on those deep ledges? You think that would work? How much of a difference does the nightcrawler scent help? Seems like a great idea. lulz
Female drivers = No survivors
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/21/14 10:47 PM
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There are some Amistad veterans with the career earnings to back up what they say that will tell you that the fish populations are way down. All the minnow spunk in the world isn't going to help you catch fish that aren't there.
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Y'all are brutal!
I don't know Don but a buddy of mine fished with him not too long ago and Don taught him some awesome techniques! Which in turn my buddy taught me. And I've taught others.
So everyone learns, catches fish and has fun!
Show some respect and at least respectfully humor the old timers if that's the best u can do.
I'll listen and learn from them.
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[Re: T54]
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07/21/14 11:46 PM
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There are some Amistad veterans with the career earnings to back up what they say that will tell you that the fish populations are way down. All the minnow spunk in the world isn't going to help you catch fish that aren't there.
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07/22/14 12:09 AM
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I always enjoy reading your post Don. Always very helpful and informative.
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[Re: TexBbq]
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07/22/14 12:58 AM
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When you get old and fat you don't get out of the house much and all you got to talk about is the past. It's better than having shite in mouth disease! Maybe you can take penicillin to get rid of that!
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07/22/14 01:05 AM
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TexBbq
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When you get old and fat you don't get out of the house much and all you got to talk about is the past. It's better than having shite in mouth disease! Maybe you can take penicillin to get rid of that! I remember when I had my first beer. I also remember my last one.
214-783-8701 Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress; but I repeat myself - Mark Twain
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[Re: TexBbq]
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07/22/14 01:17 AM
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When you get old and fat you don't get out of the house much and all you got to talk about is the past. It's better than having shite in mouth disease! Maybe you can take penicillin to get rid of that! I remember when I had my first beer. I also remember my last one. Me too. Been over two decades since I had the last one.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/22/14 02:30 AM
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There is no doubt in my mind that Don is all about helping people. . Here are some of the reasons I was a little harsh on his comments about the OP--(What is wrong with Lake Amistad ?) Mr. Harpers first comment on this was " I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there." ----- that's just like saying--- You don't know what your doing....."NOTHING has happened to the bass there" Mr. Harper then claims " I am seeing thousands of big bass all schooled up against the walls". When asked why -with all the talent that fishes Amistad - why is NO ONE catching these "thousands of big bass" --- the reply was two excuses about wind and survival rate. Mr. Harper also said "when you fish the lake for 35 years and have gone through seeing the bass disappear for long periods of time over those years; you might have a clue where they are." I figure I spent as much time and fished as many tournaments on that lake from 1996 until 2010 than ANYONE who lived as far away as I do.. --- Trust me.. there are lots of us who know how to catch deep fish on Amistad when they leave the grass. In all those years I never saw the fish disappear-- they would reposition a lot, But we always seemed to figure it out before long. However in 2013 that all changed. The fish disappeared.. My point to all of this---- I applaud Don for telling what he was told or what he did that worked. "In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest". But I can't see how anyone who has fished Amistad as much as he claims could say---- I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there.-
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/22/14 03:22 AM
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Donald Harper
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I think I explained that last statement in the rest of that post. I was not talking about catching fish at all but knowing where they are, why they went there and when they will be back.
I did jump the gun on the spawning issue cutting straight to the chase on what I thank has happened to the bass; which is what I actually thought the OP. wanted to know in the long run. Then I saw he wanted to know about the poor spawns which is still part of this same issue. If there are less fish up there to spawn shallow and no cover to protect the fingerlings then you know what is going to happen.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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I agree with the spawn theory, those b@stards seem to start pulling water every year when the spawns fixing to start. But I will add that I do not have Donald's secret techniques or bass knowledge.
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[Re: UsCav28]
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07/22/14 04:04 AM
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Donald Harper
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I never had a lot of secret techniques; but paying close attention to all the little parts of each technique. I just wanted to be consistent and in order to do that you have to offer the most realistic bait possible and it has to play upon all of that big bass's senses to get the bite.
Now some of my old spots on Amistad; I went way out of the way to protect them.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/22/14 12:58 PM
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How old are you? There is no doubt in my mind that Don is all about helping people. . Here are some of the reasons I was a little harsh on his comments about the OP--(What is wrong with Lake Amistad ?) Mr. Harpers first comment on this was " I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there." ----- that's just like saying--- You don't know what your doing....."NOTHING has happened to the bass there" Mr. Harper then claims " I am seeing thousands of big bass all schooled up against the walls". When asked why -with all the talent that fishes Amistad - why is NO ONE catching these "thousands of big bass" --- the reply was two excuses about wind and survival rate. Mr. Harper also said "when you fish the lake for 35 years and have gone through seeing the bass disappear for long periods of time over those years; you might have a clue where they are." I figure I spent as much time and fished as many tournaments on that lake from 1996 until 2010 than ANYONE who lived as far away as I do.. --- Trust me.. there are lots of us who know how to catch deep fish on Amistad when they leave the grass. In all those years I never saw the fish disappear-- they would reposition a lot, But we always seemed to figure it out before long. However in 2013 that all changed. The fish disappeared.. My point to all of this---- I applaud Don for telling what he was told or what he did that worked. "In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest". But I can't see how anyone who has fished Amistad as much as he claims could say---- I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there.-
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07/22/14 01:11 PM
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There is no doubt in my mind that Don is all about helping people. . Here are some of the reasons I was a little harsh on his comments about the OP--(What is wrong with Lake Amistad ?) Mr. Harpers first comment on this was " I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there." ----- that's just like saying--- You don't know what your doing....."NOTHING has happened to the bass there" Mr. Harper then claims " I am seeing thousands of big bass all schooled up against the walls". When asked why -with all the talent that fishes Amistad - why is NO ONE catching these "thousands of big bass" --- the reply was two excuses about wind and survival rate. Mr. Harper also said "when you fish the lake for 35 years and have gone through seeing the bass disappear for long periods of time over those years; you might have a clue where they are." I figure I spent as much time and fished as many tournaments on that lake from 1996 until 2010 than ANYONE who lived as far away as I do.. --- Trust me.. there are lots of us who know how to catch deep fish on Amistad when they leave the grass. In all those years I never saw the fish disappear-- they would reposition a lot, But we always seemed to figure it out before long. However in 2013 that all changed. The fish disappeared.. My point to all of this---- I applaud Don for telling what he was told or what he did that worked. "In 1998 when it was low. In 2003 when it was beginning to fill up. In 2006 when the grass was the tallest". But I can't see how anyone who has fished Amistad as much as he claims could say---- I think your in the wrong spot. Nothing has happened to the bass there.- Doosher of the Year candidate. This thread got poo'd on.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/22/14 02:12 PM
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That's OK. It give one practice just in case you get arrested and sit in the interrogation room for 8 hours. This gives you a chance to go over and over your story. You just want to make sure you don't change anything or add anything to the story; other wise you may incriminate yourself. HA...
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/22/14 06:14 PM
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[quote=snickers]How old are you.
Old enough to recognize the smell of B.S. But young enough to want to clear the air when it gets a little intense.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/22/14 07:26 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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There are tons of big fish out there but the problem is that they will only eat chicken livers and doughballs....
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/22/14 07:36 PM
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snickers
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So your a disrespectful child . And a dooshbag to boot [quote=snickers]How old are you.
Old enough to recognize the smell of B.S. But young enough to want to clear the air when it gets a little intense.
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07/22/14 08:52 PM
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So your a disrespectful child . And a dooshbag to boot [quote=snickers]How old are you.
Old enough to recognize the smell of B.S. But young enough to want to clear the air when it gets a little intense. I am also old enough that I don't have to regress to the childish behavior of name calling. Just because I don't agree with someone. I would rather point out what I feel is wrong or misleading.... Like I did with Mr. Harpers posts.
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07/22/14 09:21 PM
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snickers
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but you can pick on a old man. So your a disrespectful child . And a dooshbag to boot [quote=snickers]How old are you.
Old enough to recognize the smell of B.S. But young enough to want to clear the air when it gets a little intense. I am also old enough that I don't have to regress to the childish behavior of name calling. Just because I don't agree with someone. I would rather point out what I feel is wrong or misleading.... Like I did with Mr. Harpers posts.
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[Re: UsCav28]
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07/22/14 09:25 PM
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Donald Harper
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You guys settle down. Your going to get lupe543's post taken down. There has only been one disrespectful post and he is not going to retract it, so who cares.
I respect everyone's opinion on all bodies of water, but that doesn't mean that I have to fish the way they do. What I do want to know is all the information they will give me on how they fish it. Sooner or later my ways of fishing will not work because of the conditions and I will have some knowledge to fall back on.
fishnfireman and I are good as far as I am concerned. We both take some getting use to. He just has to understand that I am not talking about something that has only happen in the last 2 years. I have seen this happen 2 other times over 35 years. The Bass have been on the deep walls all three times. They always come back even better than before. It is just taking the grass longer this time to come back and I don't know how that is going to effect them.
This is my opinion on the last two spawns. These new fish are learning the ways of the deep ledges and walls. They have never experienced the deep grass so they may never come back unless some of the big old bass bring them back when the grass gets tall. Once they get acclimated to a way of life there may not be a reason for them to move shallow even if the grass is good. Who knows.. This will be a wait and see thing if the lake ever stabilizes for a long enough period of time for the grass to get 25 to 30 ft. tall.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
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07/22/14 10:28 PM
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but you can pick on a old man. So your a disrespectful child . And a dooshbag to boot [quote=snickers]How old are you.
Old enough to recognize the smell of B.S. But young enough to want to clear the air when it gets a little intense. I am also old enough that I don't have to regress to the childish behavior of name calling. Just because I don't agree with someone. I would rather point out what I feel is wrong or misleading.... Like I did with Mr. Harpers posts. Let me say this as my last comment to you sir.... I have been retired for 5 years.. With over 35 years at only two different jobs. I figure even you can do that math. As for me calling B.S. on Don-----I am not the first NOR will I be the last. We will just have to agree to disagree about several issues when it comes to Amistad. However I do hope he has learned after several of us have pointed out to him in the past. The Channel markers on Amistad ARE NOT mile markers from the Dam.. It is not near as far to Z-bend as Don has stated in the past
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07/22/14 10:39 PM
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As hard as it is to believe those Golden era fish from those Golden Era lakes are dead and not coming back. They aren't suspended in the river channel or hiding behind rock walls. They are gone.
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07/22/14 10:55 PM
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It some of you fellas had read all of Donald's post then you would know what B.S. fishingfireman is referring to, I won't get into it though. Good luck all.
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07/22/14 10:57 PM
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Donald Harper
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I could be off a couple of miles. My boat probably doesn't go as fast as yours. Ha.... You don't hate me enough to not fish with me, if we get a chance some day do you? I am probably 6 or 7 years older than you. I am 66 and can still do it from daylight to dark.
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07/22/14 10:58 PM
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Test Question? Just how far is it from the Dam to Z bend, and I do know the answer! Second test question, if the fish are gone like some say then there must have been a die off, if this many fish died why were there no floaters? Did they all sink straight to the bottom? I averaged 2 to 3 days a week for the past 2 years on Amistad and have on seen a couple floaters. Just wondering?
For what it's worth I say their are deep and will return at some point and time, it just an on going cycle that all fisheries go through at some point and time, Falcon is in the same shape. It's all due the the drought and lack of water.
Living the Dream PB 10.27 >))))> Matthew 4:19 Let us be fisher of men also!
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I think Jersey Dan pretty well summed it up with his last comment.
Guys, it's hot and humid out. The economy sux regardless of the 'reported' numbers, the world seems to take a different, violent turn every week.
We live in some divisive times like I've never seen in my 54 years. I won't lay blame for the unrest, but it is very prevalent and palpable. The associated negativity and uncertainty contributes to our duress.
Please don't let the 'times' destroy what we all love. Fishing is our common bond. This should be a place of respite for us all!
I'm as guilty as the next guy of becoming adversarial over a fishing topic that is trivial in the big scheme of things. May we all be kinder and gentler with one another.
Finally, when u think this world is seemingly spinning out of control, take pause. It is. Out of OUR control.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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07/22/14 11:55 PM
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Here is a post I made earlier this year on the same topic. This is just my opinion on what happened.
I am not a biologist, but I am a logic thinker with an over-analyzing engineering mind, so here is my honest opinion. When the lake is drawn down 60 ft, you are making essentially every bass locate and reducing the amount of shoreline in the lake. When this happened, you now have less shoreline cover for baitfish to hide in and less cover for bass to relate to. This makes the baitfish an easy target to predators so the baitfish population drastically declined due to a higher number of bass in a more concentrated area of the lake with exposed baitfish. During this period of the drawdown, a large population of the bigger fish moved offshore and suspended over deep water in search of a better food source that they didnt have to compete with the smaller fish for (tilapia). When the baitfish in the shallower water became hard to find, these bass had to eat the smaller bass to live and this reduced the population of bass, along with the population of bass that die due to the stress of overcrowding and relocation. This is natures way of restoring the fish populations to equilibrium based on the size of the lake and available forage. So now we have a population of bass that is proportional to the amount of shoreline cover and baitfish in the lake. Well then you add 35 feet of water to the lake. This increases the amount of shoreline and the amount of cover for bass and baitfish to live in, while not affecting those suspended fish nearly as much. So those suspended fish dont have any reason to rush back into shallow (thats relative) water, and they are hard to catch as we know. The reduced population of baitfish have tons of cover to hide in, and the smaller population of bass along the shoreline bunch up into the most ideal structure and cover places they can find. This leaves us where we are today with a smaller population of bass altogether in more condensed areas around the lake (leaving alot of "dead" water), baitfish that are less exposed due to more habitat to live in, and a higher number of fish suspended in really deep water that are almost inaccessible to anglers. The lake needs time to get back to equilibrium, and the only thing that can speed that up is a stabilized water level and the growth of grass. I look at it like this: go hide a dozen easter eggs in a double wide trailer and see how long it takes your kids to find them. Then take that same dozen easter eggs and hide them in the White House and see how long it takes your kids to find them. Well thats what happened to these fish when the lake level rose 35 feet, those fish moved from a double-wide into the White House. Now go find them.
Texas Tech Bass Anglers Wreck 'Em Tech
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[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 12:55 AM
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So if you put 25 feet of water back in Choke Canyon it's going to return to elite status?
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 12:57 AM
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I have spent a little bit of time graphing deep on this body of water the past couple years and the big schools of bass, perch, and shad aren't to be found.
The fluctuating water level has killed most of the grass over a 2-3 period and the only years the lake has been real good is after a couple steady water level years and great grass growth. Before the grass it fished like it is now.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: BanjoMinnow]
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07/23/14 01:35 AM
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fishnfireman
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Here is a post I made earlier this year on the same topic. This is just my opinion on what happened.
I am not a biologist, but I am a logic thinker with an over-analyzing engineering mind, so here is my honest opinion. When the lake is drawn down 60 ft, you are making essentially every bass locate and reducing the amount of shoreline in the lake. When this happened, you now have less shoreline cover for baitfish to hide in and less cover for bass to relate to. This makes the baitfish an easy target to predators so the baitfish population drastically declined due to a higher number of bass in a more concentrated area of the lake with exposed baitfish. During this period of the drawdown, a large population of the bigger fish moved offshore and suspended over deep water in search of a better food source that they didnt have to compete with the smaller fish for (tilapia). When the baitfish in the shallower water became hard to find, these bass had to eat the smaller bass to live and this reduced the population of bass, along with the population of bass that die due to the stress of overcrowding and relocation. This is natures way of restoring the fish populations to equilibrium based on the size of the lake and available forage. So now we have a population of bass that is proportional to the amount of shoreline cover and baitfish in the lake. Well then you add 35 feet of water to the lake. This increases the amount of shoreline and the amount of cover for bass and baitfish to live in, while not affecting those suspended fish nearly as much. So those suspended fish dont have any reason to rush back into shallow (thats relative) water, and they are hard to catch as we know. The reduced population of baitfish have tons of cover to hide in, and the smaller population of bass along the shoreline bunch up into the most ideal structure and cover places they can find. This leaves us where we are today with a smaller population of bass altogether in more condensed areas around the lake (leaving alot of "dead" water), baitfish that are less exposed due to more habitat to live in, and a higher number of fish suspended in really deep water that are almost inaccessible to anglers. The lake needs time to get back to equilibrium, and the only thing that can speed that up is a stabilized water level and the growth of grass. I look at it like this: go hide a dozen easter eggs in a double wide trailer and see how long it takes your kids to find them. Then take that same dozen easter eggs and hide them in the White House and see how long it takes your kids to find them. Well thats what happened to these fish when the lake level rose 35 feet, those fish moved from a double-wide into the White House. Now go find them. VERY well put. Since some time in the mid 90's The fish on Amistad have been what I call grass fish.. In years past there were a few times when it got cold enough that the grass died, or the wind would lay acres of it down, or the lake level would change enough to affect the growth. But until that 60 foot drop. Those were all short term issues. The fish would pull out to the nearest ledge, or if it was a big rise they would move into the flooded re-growth. It was easy to find them after they had to relocate.. Not so after that 60 ft drop. Those fish not only lost there house, they lost the only food source they knew. Like you say, after a short time the easy forage was gone. Which is why we started seeing a lot of the bigger fish in the spring of 2013 which were thin. We also started seeing the number of limits drop along with the total weights. In my opinion the few fish that survived, learned to forage in the open water like a striper or sand bass.. or they simply starved. Now that the lake has come back up and the grass is doing well.. We are left wondering----Where are the fish ???? Why are they not back in the grass ?? After all there is forage in the grass.. INMO---there is more grass right now than there are bass to live in it. I do not believe it takes 25 ft deep grass to pull the bass back to it. I feel what adult bass that are left are smarter than there dead brothers... I figure no mater how deep that grass is--- If there is forage in it---They will come.. I also do not agree with "The last two years spawn" being the reason for the poor fishing !! Think about it.. How big would last years spawn be ?? -- 5 to 8 inches-- How big would this years spawn be ?? 1 to 4 inches.. How would that have any effect on the number of adult fish being caught for the last two years... That's why I keep saying.. IT WILL TAKE YEARS OF GOOD CONDITIONS TO GET THE LAKE BACK .. to the glory days..
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 01:43 AM
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Wow didn't think I was gonna get this kinda feed back but I really appreciate all the comments...now y'all got me wanting to go back out and try my luck again... Lol thanks again guys👍
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 02:22 AM
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Amistad sums up the current state of fishing in texas. A shell of it's former self.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 02:27 AM
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TogiakTerror
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I know of a huge underwater cave on this lake that you wouldn't know of unless your a scuba diver. I bet they've gone there
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: Jersey Dan]
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07/23/14 03:08 AM
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fishnfireman
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Amistad sums up the current state of fishing in texas. A shell of it's former self. At least we got to be a part of the glory years. Could be---- when this drought is over and we live long enough... we may see it again.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 03:12 AM
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Tristin Riddle
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I got to fish with Denny Brauer a few weeks ago on Amistad. He has still been catching some absolute giants out there but he said that most of them are in locations that are almost impossible to fish. We fished lots of grass beds that were close to really deep water. We will see what happens at the platinum that is coming up.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 12:15 PM
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6BOOMER
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It will come back. Hopefully to it's glory days, but may take a while. For now instead of going fishing to the same spots historically caught a big bag limit you'll have to hunt for the fish and change tactics, time on the water
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/23/14 03:24 PM
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Riddle,
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: fouzman]
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07/23/14 09:33 PM
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fishnfireman
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I think Jersey Dan pretty well summed it up with his last comment.
Guys, it's hot and humid out. The economy sux regardless of the 'reported' numbers, the world seems to take a different, violent turn every week.
We live in some divisive times like I've never seen in my 54 years. I won't lay blame for the unrest, but it is very prevalent and palpable. The associated negativity and uncertainty contributes to our duress.
Please don't let the 'times' destroy what we all love. Fishing is our common bond. This should be a place of respite for us all!
I'm as guilty as the next guy of becoming adversarial over a fishing topic that is trivial in the big scheme of things. May we all be kinder and gentler with one another.
Finally, when u think this world is seemingly spinning out of control, take pause. It is. Out of OUR control. The first time I saw this I might have had blood in one eye and poop in the other. I believe I was seeing red.. After re-reading it.. It is very well put and OHH so true... Thanks !!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: pil,b]
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07/25/14 03:38 AM
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Tristin Riddle
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Riddle, Denny doesn't take pics unless they are over 18 pounds
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/26/14 04:14 AM
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The Amistad Man
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there have been some great responses. I especially like the repost of banjo minnow that fishnfireman put up there. I have been fishing this lake my whole life and have seen it go thru this before just not while under this much scrutiny and to this degree. we always tend to forget the bad times and focus on the times it was on fire. The difference is when it goes thru these swings in lake levels the fish are much harder to catch, people always think this lake is dead when you cant run inside of 15ft and catch 40 senko fish with little to no effort. We are all struggling to adjust and still manage to put fish in the boat. I will admit at times it gets tough to do, and when that happens I would by lying if I did not admit I miss those days when you only had to work half as hard for a lot better results. Now with that being said my close friend works for the park service as a diver and over the last year has been kind enough to remind me there are still a lot of big fish left in this lake. As always in time the lake will stabilize from the fluctuations the grass will once again grow everywhere and the fish will move up and stack up in easy and predictable places. Anglers will once again start banging 50 60 fish days, the tournament weights will get bigger and run deeper in the field and Amistad will rise back to being respected as a great lake. The cool thing is those of us who have history with this lake, and my great clients have all along enjoyed what most people seem to forget, and that is even when its tough this is still an awesome place to wet a line.
Respectfully,
Jc Gwynne
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: The Amistad Man]
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07/26/14 05:15 PM
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Gary D
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Wishin I was fishin! NOW, right now!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: TexBbq]
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07/26/14 08:02 PM
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elkhunter7x6
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When you get old and fat you don't get out of the house much and all you got to talk about is the past. It's better than having shite in mouth disease! No doubt! +1 There is a handfull of disrespectfull little shizles running around.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: elkhunter7x6]
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07/26/14 11:49 PM
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When you get old and fat you don't get out of the house much and all you got to talk about is the past. It's better than having shite in mouth disease! No doubt! +1 There is a handfull of disrespectfull little shizles running around. You wouldn't find them so disrespectful if you knew the whole story. You just think by reading 1 post that someone here is real helpful. Sometimes things aren't as they seem...
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/27/14 12:35 AM
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STEVE B
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I think i know the whole story, if we start being peckerheads to all bass fishermen that embellish stories , were in trouble....
team BY -GOD.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/27/14 01:48 AM
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So JC.....where ya caching em?
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: STEVE B]
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07/27/14 03:21 AM
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grout-scout
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I think i know the whole story, if we start being peckerheads to all bass fishermen that embellish stories , were in trouble.... True I suppose, I prefer information from guys who don't do that and if you're going to lie then you need proof because you know with the Internet these days people will get the truth.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: Manchu]
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07/27/14 04:21 AM
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The Amistad Man
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So JC.....where ya caching em? I have a couple of little grass beds that are holding a few, and some ledges in the mouth of the devils. On a positive note the record low water levels have had one positive to them. I found 2 deep points close together on the main lake that gave up 17 smallmouth over the course of 11 days. no big ones but did have one around 3 or so. It was surprising for me because I have caught a few out of the main lake over the years, and have heard of some occasionally being caught in the main lake, but never like that. I think the record lows may have forced some out of the rivers and into the main lake. Respectfully, Jc Gwynne
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: grout-scout]
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07/27/14 05:46 AM
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Donald Harper
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I think i know the whole story, if we start being peckerheads to all bass fishermen that embellish stories , were in trouble.... True I suppose, I prefer information from guys who don't do that and if you're going to lie then you need proof because you know with the Internet these days people will get the truth. I truly hope no one believes you. People tell lies because they have something to gain. I certainly have nothing to gain by telling a lie about how I fish, what I have caught fish on or where I have seen fish on Amistad. I am not a guide so I have nothing to gain there. I sell a few baits on here which are the best I can build like the ones I have won tournaments on; but I make no money on them if you consider the time that it takes to customize one of them. So I have nothing to gain there and have not fished a tournament in almost a year. I try to show a few pictures of some of the fish caught on the baits in recent years so people understand they still will get the job done. Some of you guys have called me out on the wording of "Major Tournaments" won. A major tournament to me is winning tournaments with $2,000 or more first place. I have fished a few FLW events on Amistad but did not win, place or show so no misconception there. I stopped fishing them because all the Ranger boat owners filled all the spots. I book a few drive in trips to Mexico and only charge the expense of the trip. I take the hickey on the wear and tear on the truck and boat; so nothing to gain there except getting to go. If they didn't have a good time and catch plenty of bass I will gladly give them 1/3 of their money back which is my part of the trip. OH and being under the assumption that the mile marker buoys are placed a mile apart is an honest mistake not a lie.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/27/14 12:39 PM
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STEVE B
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Nice response Don, now lets get back to talking about fishing instead of bs.. i take most fishing info from anyone with a grain of salt anyway. Were talking bass fishing on the internet, cant have too many facts, then it would be fishy..
team BY -GOD.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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07/27/14 01:08 PM
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grout-scout
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I think i know the whole story, if we start being peckerheads to all bass fishermen that embellish stories , were in trouble.... True I suppose, I prefer information from guys who don't do that and if you're going to lie then you need proof because you know with the Internet these days people will get the truth. I truly hope no one believes you. People tell lies because they have something to gain. I certainly have nothing to gain by telling a lie about how I fish, what I have caught fish on or where I have seen fish on Amistad. I am not a guide so I have nothing to gain there. I sell a few baits on here which are the best I can build like the ones I have won tournaments on; but I make no money on them if you consider the time that it takes to customize one of them. So I have nothing to gain there and have not fished a tournament in almost a year. I try to show a few pictures of some of the fish caught on the baits in recent years so people understand they still will get the job done. Some of you guys have called me out on the wording of "Major Tournaments" won. A major tournament to me is winning tournaments with $2,000 or more first place. I have fished a few FLW events on Amistad but did not win, place or show so no misconception there. I stopped fishing them because all the Ranger boat owners filled all the spots. I book a few drive in trips to Mexico and only charge the expense of the trip. I take the hickey on the wear and tear on the truck and boat; so nothing to gain there except getting to go. If they didn't have a good time and catch plenty of bass I will gladly give them 1/3 of their money back which is my part of the trip. OH and being under the assumption that the mile marker buoys are placed a mile apart is an honest mistake not a lie. Who says I was talking about you? I did not mention your name in my post. Ok back to discussing why Amistad now is fishing slow. JC, awesome on the smallmouth! Were there any largemouth mixed in with them or just the small mouths?
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 01:14 AM
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Gary D
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Fished it yesterday pm and this am. Yesterday 1 dink. Today 7. 4 keepers. Biggest @3 lbs. Better than Id done in a long time. All top water.
Wishin I was fishin! NOW, right now!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: The Amistad Man]
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07/28/14 01:34 AM
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fishnfireman
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So JC.....where ya caching em? I have a couple of little grass beds that are holding a few, and some ledges in the mouth of the devils. On a positive note the record low water levels have had one positive to them. I found 2 deep points close together on the main lake that gave up 17 smallmouth over the course of 11 days. no big ones but did have one around 3 or so. It was surprising for me because I have caught a few out of the main lake over the years, and have heard of some occasionally being caught in the main lake, but never like that. I think the record lows may have forced some out of the rivers and into the main lake.
Respectfully, Jc Gwynne That is interesting -- but make sense-- In all my years at Amistad I can only recall catching a handful of smallies on the main lake.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: fishnfireman]
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07/28/14 01:42 AM
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So JC.....where ya caching em? I have a couple of little grass beds that are holding a few, and some ledges in the mouth of the devils. On a positive note the record low water levels have had one positive to them. I found 2 deep points close together on the main lake that gave up 17 smallmouth over the course of 11 days. no big ones but did have one around 3 or so. It was surprising for me because I have caught a few out of the main lake over the years, and have heard of some occasionally being caught in the main lake, but never like that. I think the record lows may have forced some out of the rivers and into the main lake.
Respectfully, Jc Gwynne That is interesting -- but make sense-- In all my years at Amistad I can only recall catching a handful of smallies on the main lake. I have just been reading this thread with humor until now. I can assure you that JC knows more about Amistad than you will ever know. I don't claim to know much about it but even I have caught several smallmouth on the main lake. You need to learn a little respect and know who you are calling out. JC is the best guide on that lake.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 01:45 AM
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Black Dallas
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the last time i was at amistad was last early summer. 50' low was unreal for me. ive only went the last several years. we launch out of rough canyon. the bluff bite was the only consistent bite i could get on for big fish. it seemed better if you could find a little ledge stickling out of it somewhere down the bluff. football jigs was the ticket right along the bluffs.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: 9094]
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07/28/14 01:51 AM
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fishnfireman
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So JC.....where ya caching em? I have a couple of little grass beds that are holding a few, and some ledges in the mouth of the devils. On a positive note the record low water levels have had one positive to them. I found 2 deep points close together on the main lake that gave up 17 smallmouth over the course of 11 days. no big ones but did have one around 3 or so. It was surprising for me because I have caught a few out of the main lake over the years, and have heard of some occasionally being caught in the main lake, but never like that. I think the record lows may have forced some out of the rivers and into the main lake.
Respectfully, Jc Gwynne That is interesting -- but make sense-- In all my years at Amistad I can only recall catching a handful of smallies on the main lake. I have just been reading this thread with humor until now. I can assure you that JC knows more about Amistad than you will ever know. I don't claim to know much about it but even I have caught several smallmouth on the main lake. You need to learn a little respect and know who you are calling out. JC is the best guide on that lake. Sir if you are referring to what I wrote.. Maybe I should re-print what you THINK I said--- Or you should re-read it...I was agreeing with what JC wrote. I fail to see how that was "calling out" anyone
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 02:37 AM
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STEVE B
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Didnt see call out on that either...
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 02:44 AM
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grout-scout
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Nope, no call out from my interpretation either. What's the current level of the lake? My buddy has a house in Box Canyon and we used to go all the time but for the last year he hasn't felt like going, I guess he misses the glory days too much.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 02:54 AM
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Fishenfire You right you left the "s" off the end of the word make and I read it wrong. Has a lot different meaning when it says "makes sense" instead of "make sense".
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: grout-scout]
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07/28/14 03:29 AM
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The Amistad Man
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JC, awesome on the smallmouth! Were there any largemouth mixed in with them or just the small mouths? [/quote]
one of the points gave up 2 little dinks, only one day out of the 11. so I would say no which is interesting to me because the whole reason I checked those points to begin with, is they have been good to me over the years for holding a few decent ones on each each point. but never did find any but definitely had a blast with them 2 of those days I had kids on the boat and they were catching them on a little square bill my friend painted for me on spinning rods. so they put up a good little fight it was cool to see.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: 9094]
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07/28/14 03:35 AM
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fishnfireman
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Fishenfire You right you left the "s" off the end of the word make and I read it wrong. Has a lot different meaning when it says "makes sense" instead of "make sense". Sorry.
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 03:40 AM
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The Amistad Man
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9094, thank you for the kind words, I understood what he meant and did not take it negatively. Heck that's the great thing about this sport due to what seems like an overwhelming amount of changing variables we as fisherman face, perfection is unattainable therefore our pursuit of it is never ending !
Respectfully,
Jc Gwynne
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: The Amistad Man]
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07/28/14 03:50 AM
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fishnfireman
Extreme Angler
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9094, thank you for the kind words, I understood what he meant and did not take it negatively. Heck that's the great thing about this sport due to what seems like an overwhelming amount of changing variables we as fisherman face, perfection is unattainable therefore our pursuit of it is never ending !
Respectfully,
Jc Gwynne now that's what I call fishing . several years ago JC put me on a Yo- Yo rattle trap bite that won some money
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 03:53 AM
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spinnerbaitOU812
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I truly hope the TFF does the right thing and bans all you guys that made those horrible comments. That was so uncalled for. If any of you jerks had any clue of what was going on at Amistad I would be in shock. Mr. Harper has been fishing this lake for a long time and any information he gives you should be glad to get. His info is important, bass are creatures of habit. He has won more tournaments on this lake than all of you put together could hope to win. Mr. Harper I am sorry that in this sport that we love there has to be those kind of people.
TFF PLEASE TEACH THESE JERKS A LESSON IN MANNERS AND BAN THEM !!!!!!
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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07/28/14 04:01 AM
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fishnfireman
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[quote=Donald Harper ) OH and being under the assumption that the mile marker buoys are placed a mile apart is an honest mistake not a lie. [/quote]
OK Friend-- We keep trying to tell you-- I don't know who started calling them that--- They are NOT mile marker buoys... They are CHANNEL MARKER buoys. If you will look at a lake map it will tell you what they are. The map will also give you the mileage from the dam which does not correspond with the number on the channel marker. They were placed to mark the River channel, which in the case of Amistad is also the international boundary. They are strategically placed where the river channel (international boundary) makes a turn. Yes they are numbered---however that has nothing to do with there distance from anywhere... Simply a navigational aid. Although some might be about a mile apart. Others are obviously not even close..
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 04:21 AM
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Black Dallas
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he said it was an honest mistake.. geez give it a break dude
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 05:01 AM
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Jarrett Latta
TFF Guru
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Who cares at this point...
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Re: What is wrong with Lake Amistad !?!?!?
[Re: UsCav28]
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07/28/14 05:07 AM
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WAWI
TFF Guru
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This one has gone off the rails.
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